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Does anybody know for sure what species this is???

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Posted by Slaytonp on April 23, 2003 at 11:06:45:

In Reply to: Does anybody know for sure what species this is??? posted by Ferriera on April 23, 2003 at 10:44:30:

:What is the book you’re going by? The pictus group of frogs has been ripped up and broken over the years very similar to vents. I am pretty shore (but not positive) that both femoralis, and hahneli have the spot hahneli are yellow and femoralis are a red/orange color.
: Brian Ferriera Jr
:Plympton, Ma
::: Brian Ferriera JR
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::::Looks like a form of Epipedobates bassleri to me (I could be wrong). If you would like to see more pics of them go to http://www.livingunderworld.org/gallery/photos/anura/dendrobatidae/epipedobates/bassleri/

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:::::I've got a breeding group of 6. Bought them in Germany from an Hungarian guy. He said they are pictus but I don't think they are. They don't look the same and they sure don't sound the same. Some people think it could be femoralis. I go for hahneli for know. But I would sure like to have some more information. Does anybody know where in Peru they come from??

:::::Greetings Remco

::::Under the description I have for E. pictus it says: There is a bright spot, usually yellow to red under the base of the shank (proximoventral calf spot) that is absent in E. femoralis and almost all other similar species. I think I'm seeing this on your frog in the picture. The white stripes do not meet on the snout in pictus. But then if the call is different???
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:::I'm using Walls (Jewels of the Rainforest) 1994, but although the picts are beautiful, taxonomy is always changing, so it probably is outdated. Patty
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