Re: REPTILE PET TRADE AND CONSERVATION

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Posted by Oliver on September 08, 2001 at 03:26:27:

In Reply to: Re: REPTILE PET TRADE AND CONSERVATION posted by Fundad on February 23, 2001 at 13:58:58:

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: MANY SPECIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DWINDELLING IN NUMBERS IN LARGE PART DO
: TO THE CAPTURE OF THESE ANIMALS FOR THE PET TRADE (WILD CAUGHT PURCHASE
: FROM IMPORTERS). HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO THE REPTILES THEY CLAIM TO
: LOVE?: WE NEED SOME OPINIONS ON A RESEARCH SUBJECT...IF YOU HAVE TIME PLEASE POST A RESPONSE AND/OR E MAIL A COMMENT.

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: Prove the above statement with studies that
: back it up. And we will continue this conversation.
: Name me 3 Species of herps that have declined
: because of collecting

: Good Luck
: Fundad

I'm not a scientist, but what about the Golden Toad, indigo snake, san francisco garter snake or desert tortoise- just a few off the top of my head that might have had something to do with the pet trade. no confusion here though, I'm on your side, I believe captive herps can teach the average person more about conservation than their local school teachers and nation geographic tv programs. I will continue to support herpers
oliver
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: : MANY REPTILE KEEPERS THINK THEY ARE CONSERVATIONISTS. IN THE MAJORITY OF CASES, MOST SPECIES WHEN FIRST OBTAINED IN THE WILD HAD TO BE COLLECTED (AND DIED OFF) IN LARGE NUMBERS BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT IN CAPTIVITY (THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED). WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
: : MANY SPECIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DWINDELLING IN NUMBERS IN LARGE PART DO TO THE CAPTURE OF THESE ANIMALS FOR THE PET TRADE (WILD CAUGHT PURCHASE FROM IMPORTERS). HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO THE REPTILES THEY CLAIM TO LOVE?
: : ALSO, SINCE THE MAJORITY OF KEEPERS ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN BREED AND RELEASE PROGRAMS, HOW CAN ONE STILL BE CALLED A CONSERVATIONIST IN THIS RESPECT?

: : PLEASE TRY TO BE CRITICAL OR YOURSELF AND OTHERS WHILE ANSWERING

: : NO DISRESPECT IS MEANT.
: : IT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED THAT NEITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE IS MEANT TO BE FAVORED, OPINIONS ARE NEEDED EITHER WAY.

: : THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!

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: : : : : MANY SPECIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DWINDELLING IN NUMBERS IN LARGE PART DO : : TO THE CAPTURE OF THESE ANIMALS FOR THE PET TRADE (WILD CAUGHT PURCHASE : : FROM IMPORTERS). HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO THE REPTILES THEY CLAIM TO : : LOVE?: WE NEED SOME OPINIONS ON A RESEARCH SUBJECT...IF YOU HAVE TIME PLEASE POST A RESPONSE AND/OR E MAIL A COMMENT. : : : : Prove the above statement with studies that : : back it up. And we will continue this conversation. : : Name me 3 Species of herps that have declined : : because of collecting : : Good Luck : : Fundad : I'm not a scientist, but what about the Golden Toad, indigo snake, san francisco garter snake or desert tortoise- just a few off the top of my head that might have had something to do with the pet trade. no confusion here though, I'm on your side, I believe captive herps can teach the average person more about conservation than their local school teachers and nation geographic tv programs. I will continue to support herpers : oliver : : : : : MANY REPTILE KEEPERS THINK THEY ARE CONSERVATIONISTS. IN THE MAJORITY OF CASES, MOST SPECIES WHEN FIRST OBTAINED IN THE WILD HAD TO BE COLLECTED (AND DIED OFF) IN LARGE NUMBERS BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT IN CAPTIVITY (THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED). WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? : : : MANY SPECIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DWINDELLING IN NUMBERS IN LARGE PART DO TO THE CAPTURE OF THESE ANIMALS FOR THE PET TRADE (WILD CAUGHT PURCHASE FROM IMPORTERS). HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO THE REPTILES THEY CLAIM TO LOVE? : : : ALSO, SINCE THE MAJORITY OF KEEPERS ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN BREED AND RELEASE PROGRAMS, HOW CAN ONE STILL BE CALLED A CONSERVATIONIST IN THIS RESPECT? : : : PLEASE TRY TO BE CRITICAL OR YOURSELF AND OTHERS WHILE ANSWERING : : : NO DISRESPECT IS MEANT. : : : IT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED THAT NEITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE IS MEANT TO BE FAVORED, OPINIONS ARE NEEDED EITHER WAY. : : : THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!

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