Re: REPTILE PET TRADE AND CONSERVATION

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Posted by pj on February 16, 2001 at 20:13:29:

In Reply to: REPTILE PET TRADE AND CONSERVATION posted by UNIVERSITY RESEARCH on February 14, 2001 at 16:44:52:

my best advice would be to start by learning how to properly post a message. you have a valid question, but are probably posting in the wrong site. The traffic on this site is low and these aren't the hard core pet keepers you are hoping to reach/offend. Yes, some think they are conservationists, but many are children who are entranced by the variety of shapes, colors, and sizes of herps. They haven't done anything that we didn't do when we had enough allowance in our pocket to buy our first newt or anole. The breeders/conservationists came from the cohort of children who were exposed to these animals at a young age. They are the future of herp conservation as the pet trade pressure becomes secondary to human consumption of habitat and animals. The questions you are asking are best addressed on a public policy level.

: WE NEED SOME OPINIONS ON A RESEARCH SUBJECT...IF YOU HAVE TIME PLEASE POST A RESPONSE AND/OR E MAIL A COMMENT.

: MANY REPTILE KEEPERS THINK THEY ARE CONSERVATIONISTS. IN THE MAJORITY OF CASES, MOST SPECIES WHEN FIRST OBTAINED IN THE WILD HAD TO BE COLLECTED (AND DIED OFF) IN LARGE NUMBERS BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT IN CAPTIVITY (THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED). WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?
: MANY SPECIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DWINDELLING IN NUMBERS IN LARGE PART DO TO THE CAPTURE OF THESE ANIMALS FOR THE PET TRADE (WILD CAUGHT PURCHASE FROM IMPORTERS). HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO THE REPTILES THEY CLAIM TO LOVE?
: ALSO, SINCE THE MAJORITY OF KEEPERS ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN BREED AND RELEASE PROGRAMS, HOW CAN ONE STILL BE CALLED A CONSERVATIONIST IN THIS RESPECT?

: PLEASE TRY TO BE CRITICAL OR YOURSELF AND OTHERS WHILE ANSWERING

: NO DISRESPECT IS MEANT.
: IT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED THAT NEITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE IS MEANT TO BE FAVORED, OPINIONS ARE NEEDED EITHER WAY.

: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!

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: my best advice would be to start by learning how to properly post a message. you have a valid question, but are probably posting in the wrong site. The traffic on this site is low and these aren't the hard core pet keepers you are hoping to reach/offend. Yes, some think they are conservationists, but many are children who are entranced by the variety of shapes, colors, and sizes of herps. They haven't done anything that we didn't do when we had enough allowance in our pocket to buy our first newt or anole. The breeders/conservationists came from the cohort of children who were exposed to these animals at a young age. They are the future of herp conservation as the pet trade pressure becomes secondary to human consumption of habitat and animals. The questions you are asking are best addressed on a public policy level. : : : WE NEED SOME OPINIONS ON A RESEARCH SUBJECT...IF YOU HAVE TIME PLEASE POST A RESPONSE AND/OR E MAIL A COMMENT. : : MANY REPTILE KEEPERS THINK THEY ARE CONSERVATIONISTS. IN THE MAJORITY OF CASES, MOST SPECIES WHEN FIRST OBTAINED IN THE WILD HAD TO BE COLLECTED (AND DIED OFF) IN LARGE NUMBERS BEFORE SUCCESSFULLY KEPT IN CAPTIVITY (THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED). WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS? : : MANY SPECIES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO BE DWINDELLING IN NUMBERS IN LARGE PART DO TO THE CAPTURE OF THESE ANIMALS FOR THE PET TRADE (WILD CAUGHT PURCHASE FROM IMPORTERS). HOW CAN ONE JUSTIFY DOING THIS TO THE REPTILES THEY CLAIM TO LOVE? : : ALSO, SINCE THE MAJORITY OF KEEPERS ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN BREED AND RELEASE PROGRAMS, HOW CAN ONE STILL BE CALLED A CONSERVATIONIST IN THIS RESPECT? : : PLEASE TRY TO BE CRITICAL OR YOURSELF AND OTHERS WHILE ANSWERING : : NO DISRESPECT IS MEANT. : : IT NEEDS TO BE STRESSED THAT NEITHER SIDE OF THE ISSUE IS MEANT TO BE FAVORED, OPINIONS ARE NEEDED EITHER WAY. : : THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME!

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