Well you may have a point...I guess the other thing that made me crazy about that post was the implication that a 'wild caught' hatchling mud turtle wouldn't do as well as a captive one. That it might be more skittish or fragile in some way. As a person who has caught or kept many many W/C mud turtles that statement is without any credibilty. A hatchling mud turtle, either W/C or captive is about as hardy a turtle as there is! I felt (and still do) that the arguement over a hatchling mud turtle was overly melodramatic and exaggerated.