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Posted by Yasser on January 22, 2003 at 22:19:34:

In Reply to: Wierd... posted by Doug T on January 22, 2003 at 21:37:12:

Doug, although the female was soaking this year as well as last year when she reproduced, should still could have been on the same track this year. She just never ovulated and just reabsorbed the follicles.
Oh and the keyword is CURB here. As soon as we can afford the space, they are high on our list of species to work with.
Now that I've seen the Grey phase, I think I'm in love. Although I do enjoy the looks of Mandarins as well. Is there any good compiled info on these guys? No snippets...I'm talkin' meaty info...
Take it easy.
-Yasser


:My female actually went into the water a few days before warm up and was hanging out in 65 degree water. I guess she likes it consistantly COLD.

:It must have something to do with follicle developement because I can't think of a time when either of the males soaked for any extended period. I wonder though. At best my MTB's are bi-anual reproducers. The soaking female had babies last season and doesn't appear gravid. Ahh the mysteries.

:As for waiting for your scrub addiction to curb before you get any Mad's...I think that's gonna be a long time... ;-)

:Doug

::We notcied that when our female scrubs are cool or during the warmup, they will go into their waterpans for days much like your MTBs.
::I have no clue really why but I think it has something to do with creating a more constant temperature for them. The water acts as an insulator of sorts. The snake doesn't get as cool at night while in the water as it is holding the daytime temps longer. But the water never really gets as warm as the rest of the cage during the DTHs either. I found that the snakes in the water hold less variable body temps usually accurate to about 3-5 degrees of fluctuation in a daily variation of cage temps of as much as 15 degrees.
::I was talking to some well known breeders a couple of years ago and they mentioned how they believe the cooler temps in the winter aids in the slow and proper development of healthy follicles in females. At this time they seem to prefer being cool and avoid any extra heat. But once ovulation has occured, they need warmth for proper egg (or embryo)development. It seems to be quite true with our stuff. Maybe soaking in the water is their way of fine tuning their preferred temps. Our males almost never soak in winter...if anything, they are heat hogs. Any time there is supplemental heat on in their cage, they are using it.
::Funny stuff huh?
::BTW, I still want some of those MTBs.
::As soon as we curb our scrub addiction!
::Take care Doug!
::-Yasser

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