In MY defence........

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Posted by graham(UK) on January 06, 2002 at 13:41:18:

In Reply to: An explanation please. posted by Justin on January 05, 2002 at 21:30:33:

Lets clear up some points,

1. My torts were being sold by the pet trade in the UK before I purchased them. I DID NOT BRING THEM FROM THE WARMER CLIMES TO THE UK FOR SALE.

2. I purchased them with the intention of bettering their life, I was told they were good garden torts! I spent the money on preparing them a better home than most ppl would/could.

3. As I told you ppl, my torts make their own decision as to whether to venture outside or not. I DID NOT PUT THEM OUTSIDE FOR THE PIC. The pic didn't tell the whole story, as that they stayed outside for only a short while, before returning to the heat indoors.

4. As today has been milder, & the snow over the weekend has thawed, again they have been outside munching away at the lawn, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE CHOICE OF SELECT VEG INDOORS.

5. My torts have seen snow before, they get rain, wind & any elements which THEY choose to go out in. Collectivly they have attained 4-5yrs of age with this regime.

6. The dark colouration is due to the lack of sun bleaching their shells, most ppl in cooler climes will prob find this. It's not an indication of poor wellfare. Again, from ppl on this forum, with the exception of "Linda's 4.5yr old super smooth Sulcata", most are slightly lumpy, this does not mean we do'nt take care of all our torts.

Now mixing species, that risky, ok if you get away with it in the short term.

graham(UK)

: Hmmm, just been thinking, how come when I post a pic of my greek tortoise in the same vicinity of a leopard tortoise, I catch a ton of crap. But when people see a sulcata in snow they respond in a positive manner and seem to think it is cute and funny. Honestly which situation is more irresponsible. After seeing the pics how many inexperienced people are going to try it with their animals?

: Justin

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Re: In MY defence........ Justin 01/06/02 (20)
- reply....... graham(UK) 01/06/02 (19)
  - Re: reply....... Justin 01/06/02 (18)
    - Re: reply....... Tim 01/06/02 (0)
    - Re: reply....... graham(UK) 01/06/02 (16)
      - Re: reply....... Justin 01/06/02 (15)
        
        Re: reply....... Stuart McArthur 01/07/02 (14)
        
        Re: reply....... Justin 01/07/02 (13)
        
        Re: reply....... Stuart McArthur 01/07/02 (11)
        
        Now this, this is substance. Justin 01/07/02 (10)
        
        Re: Now this, this is substance. Stuart McArthur 01/08/02 (9)
        
        Great Reading, you haven't lost me yet! N/P Susan 01/10/02 (0)
        
        To my knowledge Justin 01/08/02 (4)
        
        Re: To my knowledge Stuart McArthur 01/09/02 (3)
        
        Re: To my knowledge Justin 01/09/02 (2)
        
        Re: To my knowledge Stuart McArthur 01/09/02 (1)
        
        Re: To my knowledge Justin 01/09/02 (0)
        
        Mixing species EJ 01/08/02 (2)
        
        Some are mixing species & selling on these classifieds! Susan 01/10/02 (1)
        
        That box turtle ad caught my attention too... EJ 01/10/02 (0)
        
        Not cool at all. n/p EJ 01/07/02 (0)
Graham...you don't need to defend yourself/lighten up ppl Georgia 01/06/02 (0)
Re: In MY defence........ EJ 01/06/02 (5)
- reply.......... graham(UK) 01/06/02 (4)
  - If no one bought them, there would be no market. N/P Justin 01/06/02 (3)
    - I would agree with you here.......... graham(UK) 01/06/02 (2)
      - Re: I would agree with you here.......... Justin 01/06/02 (1)
        
        A+B+C=surplus stock..........n/p graham(UK) 01/06/02 (0)
ps, pics were taken today.n/p graham(UK) 01/06/02 (0)

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: Lets clear up some points, : 1. My torts were being sold by the pet trade in the UK before I purchased them. I DID NOT BRING THEM FROM THE WARMER CLIMES TO THE UK FOR SALE. : 2. I purchased them with the intention of bettering their life, I was told they were good garden torts! I spent the money on preparing them a better home than most ppl would/could. : 3. As I told you ppl, my torts make their own decision as to whether to venture outside or not. I DID NOT PUT THEM OUTSIDE FOR THE PIC. The pic didn't tell the whole story, as that they stayed outside for only a short while, before returning to the heat indoors. : 4. As today has been milder, & the snow over the weekend has thawed, again they have been outside munching away at the lawn, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE CHOICE OF SELECT VEG INDOORS. : 5. My torts have seen snow before, they get rain, wind & any elements which THEY choose to go out in. Collectivly they have attained 4-5yrs of age with this regime. : 6. The dark colouration is due to the lack of sun bleaching their shells, most ppl in cooler climes will prob find this. It's not an indication of poor wellfare. Again, from ppl on this forum, with the exception of "Linda's 4.5yr old super smooth Sulcata", most are slightly lumpy, this does not mean we do'nt take care of all our torts. : Now mixing species, that risky, ok if you get away with it in the short term. : graham(UK) : <img src= http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/5/14/96/28651496opsfeWNweJ_ph.jpg> : <img src=http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v0/5/14/50/28651450CAfzxLhJBK_ph.jpg> : : : Hmmm, just been thinking, how come when I post a pic of my greek tortoise in the same vicinity of a leopard tortoise, I catch a ton of crap. But when people see a sulcata in snow they respond in a positive manner and seem to think it is cute and funny. Honestly which situation is more irresponsible. After seeing the pics how many inexperienced people are going to try it with their animals? : : Justin

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