Venting about Tortoise adoption (long)

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Posted by Justin on July 31, 2001 at 17:54:30:

History: Growing up as a kid, my grandparents owned and bred desert torts. After I moved away from my home in AZ, my grandparents gave them away. Now I have returned to AZ, I have a love for tortoises and currenlty have 24 of them covering 9 different species.
Yesterday: I made my first phone call trying to adopt a baby or adult Desert Tortoise. I read all the care sheets availlable and pretty much know what I am doing. Unfortunately no one answered the phone at the agency. Message left.
Today: Phone call returned, adoption official wants to inspect my home and yard (No Problem) official informed that I own 24 other tortoise, her response "That might be a problem". I was then given the impression that if I had never owned a tortoise before, I would stand a better chance of getting one than I do now. Hmmm. So I guess they would rather place the animal with novices, then with someone who knows what they are doing. Official tells me that I must maintain my other 24 torts inside and "my" desert tortoise outside. That seems a little excessive, my yard is over 3000 square feet. So now I am guessing I will not be able to adopt a new tortoise, can anyone explain to me why the fish and wildlife rules are so ridiculous.

Justin

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Thankyou all that responded to help me out.//NP Justin 08/01/01 (8)
- Re: Thankyou all that responded to help me out.//NP Theresa 08/01/01 (7)
  - Re: Thankyou all that responded to help me out.//NP Lori Green 08/02/01 (0)
  - Misinformation is a dangerous thing. ANNIE LANCASTER-TORTOISEAID 08/02/01 (3)
    - Re: Misinformation is a dangerous thing. Minnie 08/02/01 (1)
      - Re: Misinformation is a dangerous thing. Annie Lancaster-TortoiseAid 08/03/01 (0)
    - Whoops! Wrong picture! Annie Lancaster 08/02/01 (0)
  - My Personal Take Justin 08/02/01 (1)
    - Re: My Personal Take Theresa 08/02/01 (0)
Justin, another resource for you to try... EJ 08/01/01 (0)
Your email has been Sent =-)...NP Aladar 08/01/01 (0)
You might be able to use this... EJ 08/01/01 (0)
Re: Venting about Tortoise adoption (long) ian 08/01/01 (1)
- Mike Demlong? G&F Biologist,.... np. Aladar 08/01/01 (0)
Re: Venting about Tortoise adoption (long) Theresa 07/31/01 (12)
- Yes....np Aladar 08/01/01 (6)
  - Re: Yes, and NO, You still need a permit NP Lori Green 08/01/01 (5)
    - Re: Yes, and NO, You still need a permit NP Theresa 08/01/01 (4)
      - Re: Yes, and NO, You still need a permit NP LORI GREEN 08/01/01 (1)
        
        JUSTIN REGARDING DT ADOPTION ANNIE LANCASTER-TORTOISEAID INT'L 08/01/01 (0)
      - in the State of AZ....and fed regs as far as I am aware Aladar 08/01/01 (1)
        
        Re: in the State of AZ....and fed regs as far as I am aware Lori Green 08/01/01 (0)
- Adopting Desert Tortoises is hard (Answer to why) Lori Green (Turtle Homes Rescue) 08/01/01 (4)
  - Re: Adopting Desert Tortoises is hard (Answer to why) Justin 08/01/01 (3)
    - Re: Adopting Desert Tortoises is hard (Answer to why) Lori Green 08/01/01 (1)
      - Justin is in AZ. n/p EJ 08/01/01 (0)
    - Are you trying to get them thru the NTS? NP Aladar 08/01/01 (0)
Re: Venting about Tortoise adoption (long) steve 07/31/01 (2)
- Re: Venting about Tortoise adoption (long) Justin 07/31/01 (1)
  - Re: Venting about Tortoise adoption (long) Lori Green 08/01/01 (0)
Email me I may be able to help you out.....Ill explain in email.. see ya Aladar 07/31/01 (0)

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: History: Growing up as a kid, my grandparents owned and bred desert torts. After I moved away from my home in AZ, my grandparents gave them away. Now I have returned to AZ, I have a love for tortoises and currenlty have 24 of them covering 9 different species. : Yesterday: I made my first phone call trying to adopt a baby or adult Desert Tortoise. I read all the care sheets availlable and pretty much know what I am doing. Unfortunately no one answered the phone at the agency. Message left. : Today: Phone call returned, adoption official wants to inspect my home and yard (No Problem) official informed that I own 24 other tortoise, her response "That might be a problem". I was then given the impression that if I had never owned a tortoise before, I would stand a better chance of getting one than I do now. Hmmm. So I guess they would rather place the animal with novices, then with someone who knows what they are doing. Official tells me that I must maintain my other 24 torts inside and "my" desert tortoise outside. That seems a little excessive, my yard is over 3000 square feet. So now I am guessing I will not be able to adopt a new tortoise, can anyone explain to me why the fish and wildlife rules are so ridiculous. : Justin

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