Re: Baytril for Young Turtles

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Posted by Dan on February 11, 2001 at 22:25:01:

In Reply to: Baytril for Young Turtles posted by Kelly Manning on February 10, 2001 at 13:12:50:

Baytril is available as an injectable at a concentration of 22.7mg/ml.
2cc=2ml. That would result in 45.4mg being injected into a 50g animal.
A generally accepted dose for baytril in chelonians is 5 to 10mg per Kilogram.
At that dose, a 50g animal should be given 0.25 to 0.5mg which works out to be 0.01 to 0.02 ml of injectable Baytril.
Similar dosages are used in mammals. I doubt that the vet would err by a factor of 100. Is it possible that he actually injected 0.02ml rather than 2ml?
Baytril appears to be a relatively safe drug, however, in large quantities (greater than 1ml at an injection site) the inactive ingredients can cause local tissue irritation or damage.

: I have two adolescent box turtles that had gone off their food, were lethargic
: and would not open their eyes for long periods of time. I took them to the vet
: and he diagnosed them as having a vitamin deficiency. He prescribed Baytril
: injections every 24 hours. He prescribed 2 cubic ml of Baytril for the
: larger of the two, which weighed 50 grams. He also administered a shot of Injacom
: to each of them. The following morning, the larger, healthier of the two was
: dead. Could these drugs in conjunction or by themselves be toxic to one-year-old
: box turtles? He also has them listed in his files as pond turtles. They are in fact
: three-toed boxes. Please advise. Thank you.

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: Baytril is available as an injectable at a concentration of 22.7mg/ml. : 2cc=2ml. That would result in 45.4mg being injected into a 50g animal. : A generally accepted dose for baytril in chelonians is 5 to 10mg per Kilogram. : At that dose, a 50g animal should be given 0.25 to 0.5mg which works out to be 0.01 to 0.02 ml of injectable Baytril. : Similar dosages are used in mammals. I doubt that the vet would err by a factor of 100. Is it possible that he actually injected 0.02ml rather than 2ml? : Baytril appears to be a relatively safe drug, however, in large quantities (greater than 1ml at an injection site) the inactive ingredients can cause local tissue irritation or damage. : : I have two adolescent box turtles that had gone off their food, were lethargic : : and would not open their eyes for long periods of time. I took them to the vet : : and he diagnosed them as having a vitamin deficiency. He prescribed Baytril : : injections every 24 hours. He prescribed 2 cubic ml of Baytril for the : : larger of the two, which weighed 50 grams. He also administered a shot of Injacom : : to each of them. The following morning, the larger, healthier of the two was : : dead. Could these drugs in conjunction or by themselves be toxic to one-year-old : : box turtles? He also has them listed in his files as pond turtles. They are in fact : : three-toed boxes. Please advise. Thank you.

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