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Posted by EJ on July 05, 2000 at 01:42:44:
: Andy, could you please cite a reference for your conclusions. >>
Any number.... but the best place to start would be to read the actual manufacturer's contraindications and warnings.
>Mentions nothing about reptiles
Baytril is a broad spectrum antibiotic. Add to a sensitive (bacterial) symbiotic flora and I would have thought that the
consequences would be 24 karat self-evident....
>So this is an assumption on your part then.
: My friend did mention that a gut flora imbalance in grazing mammals which is lethal was caused by the overuse of
antibiotics but that there was no evidence for this in grazing tortoises.
Nonsense. Pray, what's the functional difference?
>You’re saying there is no physiological difference between Mammals and Reptiles?
: It was mentioned that stomach Ph is about 2 which I think is as acid as you can get.
Are we talking ol' Mississippi 'gators here, or tortoises? A tortoise with a gut pH of 2 is in big trouble. That's acidosis.
Actual, normal, healthy range is around 6.5 to 7.2. As gut pH falls below 5, tissue damage and production of endotoxins will occur.
> Normal (?) low is about 2.0 and the high is (now this surprised me) is as high as 8.0 for the gastric juices of Testudo graeca depending on if it is fasting or if it is feeding. Ph is obviously related to gastric juice production which is related to feeding and temperature so it is not fixed.
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