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Posted by Patricia Sherman on November 28, 2001 at 06:21:47:

In Reply to: Re: New Taxonomy of the Elaphe obsoleta complex posted by Frank Burbrink on October 19, 2001 at 12:06:04:

Frank,

You said:

: ... Often people who keep these snakes as pets have strong priors on their taxonomy (possibly because they are used to these old names or they don't want to learn a new system). Unfortunately, they have very little to suggest a real system. ...

Being one of those that keeps these animals as pets/hobby, I'm also one of those persons who is resistant towards reclassification. The current taxonomy is familiar and it _seems_ to work quite well. Can you please tell me which classes my pets would be slotted into under your classification system? I have Elaphe o. obsoleta, both high-black phase and greenish phase; E. o. rossalleni; E. o. lindheimeri; and one specimen that I believe to be an intergrade between rossalleni and quadrivittata.

Where do their offspring fit into your classification if I should breed some of them as intergrades/hybrids? Specifically, what happens if I breed a rossaleni to an obsoleta? A lindheimeri to an obsoleta?

Thankyou for the work that you are doing on this subject.

Patricia

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: Frank, : You said: : : ... Often people who keep these snakes as pets have strong priors on their taxonomy (possibly because they are used to these old names or they don't want to learn a new system). Unfortunately, they have very little to suggest a real system. ... : Being one of those that keeps these animals as pets/hobby, I'm also one of those persons who is resistant towards reclassification. The current taxonomy is familiar and it _seems_ to work quite well. Can you please tell me which classes my pets would be slotted into under your classification system? I have Elaphe o. obsoleta, both high-black phase and greenish phase; E. o. rossalleni; E. o. lindheimeri; and one specimen that I believe to be an intergrade between rossalleni and quadrivittata. : Where do their offspring fit into your classification if I should breed some of them as intergrades/hybrids? Specifically, what happens if I breed a rossaleni to an obsoleta? A lindheimeri to an obsoleta? : Thankyou for the work that you are doing on this subject. : Patricia

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