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Posted by Jan Grathwohl on May 06, 2003 at 01:23:03:
In Reply to: What locality is this? posted by Bluerosy on May 05, 2003 at 20:20:33:
Thanx a lot for the info... the difficulty for people like me and most other europeans are that we are not familiar with the fact wether these populations live close to each other or not, so I assume from your text that if I just make sure to find animals alike those i have, the breeding of these together will not have much to say, right? I would prefer not to mix roseofusca populations living to far away from each other if possible (although i know it might be hard to achive)
:The triv trivs are difficult to. There are some that people can make a good guesstimation at like for instance the peach colored tinted ones, or the wide dorsal striped. But for the most part these are only observations and not fact.
:Maybe your coastal has been crossed but so what. I don't think it is. It looks to me to have some Borrego influence (hard to tell form the partial picture) and so may be from the North San Diego area or just north west of Borrego Natl. park. But the Coastals are all close enough not to matter and they will all get to be the largest of the Lichanura group.
::Thanx for your reply
::I kind of had the feeling that that was the way. I unfortunately think that most rosy's in Europe are at mix of all different kinds of strains (unfortunately), and as it's not possible to find out the precise locality of these, they will be treated as such (not mixed with locality specific animals).
::I also keep a trio of Mexicans's (trivirgata trivirgata), how is the variation within these?
:::Its kinda hard to give a locality info coastal rosys because they vary so much within each locale. Taking into acct most coastals come from Hemet area that would be a good guess. But the colors are also similar to a Lake Elsinor, LAke Mathews (which is near Hemet) and/or could also be more south from near San Diego.
:::With these the only way to tell for sure is from the person you got them from!
::::Bought two males at a German Expo in Marz and was wondering if it was possible to get a locality on these animals.
::::They were sold to me as roseofusca, which i assume is right.
::::Don't know if its possible to give a locality, but here it is anyway