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Re: Nopers!


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Posted by azteclizard on January 22, 2003 at 10:40:47:

In Reply to: Re: Nopers! posted by mikecoscia on January 22, 2003 at 06:13:16:

"However meat/baby food even with bee pollen doesn’t come close to it."
that's why i add the Performance Plus Gecko supplement to my mixes. It shares alot of the ingredients of the T-rex diet. It's great stuff. you can check it out at herpnutrition.com. I understand your point. It's not as simple as just mixing meat and fruit baby food. But, i still feel that with that base mix and good supplementation, it is fine as a sole source of food. Allen proved it years ago. Who knows why he changed his formulation. There could be other reasons other than one being better than the other. Anyway, could you just explain why you feel that Spirulina is a better source of protien than meat for instance? Last i heard, meats were a complete protien. I don't know the amino acid profile of spirulina, so i won't speculate. Maybe you can shed some light on the qustion

:I have that issue of reptiles and there is nothing in it about crested geckos, it is mostly about dart-frogs as I can see. However, Allen did write a much more recent article in the 2003 annual. In that article he says nothing about meat baby food just; “over the years developed a complete diet for crested the gecko. We start with a mixture of baby foods and add natural ingredients such as bee pollen, spriulina, kelp and electrolytes, along with vitamins and calcium, this produces a complete and balanced diet that requires no additional supplementation.” It then goes to say, “ We have successfully raised several generations of crested geckos on this non-prey diet, making this species one of the few that can be kept on a non-living prey diet.” This diet is fine to raise and keep animals on. However meat/baby food even with bee pollen doesn’t come close to it. I am pretty sure the sugar content is not as high as baby food. The spriulina is also a much better source of protein. Allen prob started out like the rest of us, with meat/baby food, but in the long run he came up with this. Something much more beneficial to the animals. He even goes on saying, “If the above complete diet is not used a mixture of baby food and calcium vitamin supplement can be feed two or three times a week, along with insects on alternating days.” This is something I have been saying all along. If you are not using Allen’s diet you should only use fruit or fruit/meat on occasion or if necessary (animals refuse to eat live prey). So IMO the point and correct answer to the question -Yes crested geckos can be kept on a fruit diet, HOWEVER not on the one most us are using.
:-Mike





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