Re: Ptyas carinatus vs. Elaphe carinata

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Posted by Terry Cox on December 29, 2001 at 19:30:27:

In Reply to: Ptyas carinatus vs. Elaphe carinata posted by Jaffo on December 29, 2001 at 15:27:19:

: I have discovered the error of my ways.
: The sources I was referring to below that suggest that Elaphe carinata reach those great lengths were apparently referring to Ptyas carinatus. A while back I was assuming these two species were one in the same, which is where I got confused. I forgave myself though, because it seems a lot of people confuse the two, since we hardly see them here in the states.

: Either way, it is apparent that both species get really quite huge for colubrids, and either would be cool to keep.

: Still, I am intrigued at the idea of a 12-foot rat snake...

: Jaffo

Jaf, that would explain how it could get to ten feet. These non-Elaphe ratsnakes can get really huge.

Saw a king cobra once, crossing a dirt road, in Thailand. It's tail was on one side hanging over and it's head was heading off the other side. Those guys get up to 16 ft., or so.

I think Spilotes, Cen. Amer. ratsnake, is the largest colubrid in N. America. A ten to twelve footer would be totally awesome. Wonder what the largest in captivity was?

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: : I have discovered the error of my ways. : : The sources I was referring to below that suggest that Elaphe carinata reach those great lengths were apparently referring to Ptyas carinatus. A while back I was assuming these two species were one in the same, which is where I got confused. I forgave myself though, because it seems a lot of people confuse the two, since we hardly see them here in the states. : : Either way, it is apparent that both species get really quite huge for colubrids, and either would be cool to keep. : : Still, I am intrigued at the idea of a 12-foot rat snake... : : Jaffo : : Jaf, that would explain how it could get to ten feet. These non-Elaphe ratsnakes can get really huge. : Saw a king cobra once, crossing a dirt road, in Thailand. It's tail was on one side hanging over and it's head was heading off the other side. Those guys get up to 16 ft., or so. : I think Spilotes, Cen. Amer. ratsnake, is the largest colubrid in N. America. A ten to twelve footer would be totally awesome. Wonder what the largest in captivity was? : TC

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