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Posted by KEN on December 19, 2001 at 00:32:22:

In Reply to: Spalerosophis diadem subspecies posted by jack deryke on December 10, 2001 at 00:47:44:

If you Diadema turned to a deep reddish -orange,with a few black (glossy)patches,and the head you describe,it is of the subspecies S.diadema ATRICEPS,not CLIFFORDI .The cliffordi are much paler,and do not develop to be near as pretty as the atriceps.
I live up north of you in Canada(Y'know,the Great White North),and to the best of my knowledge,the trio I keep is the only adult one in my Country.They are currently in brumation,and I hope to breed them this coming season.
I have researched every(limited)resource I could find on these guys,and the alleged other 7 ssp,and from your description,I have no doubt of its identity.Cliffordi also never lose all of their original juvie pattern.
Hope it helps.
KEN in Canada

: I have a so-called Pakistani Jewel ratsnake, according to the breeder 'Spalerosophis D atricepts'. Initially looking like an 8" baby gopher snake, it turned strawberry-red at 2 yrs old with a gloss black head & tail plus scattered black blotches down his 4 ft long body. He behaves more like a racer than a ratsnake although handleable and not nippy. But there is apparently another subspecies (possibly Spalerosophis d cliffordi) that changes to pale yellow with the same black blotches. Can anyone verlfy this is the right subspecies, or do they keep/breed this color subspecies?

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: : If you Diadema turned to a deep reddish -orange,with a few black (glossy)patches,and the head you describe,it is of the subspecies S.diadema ATRICEPS,not CLIFFORDI .The cliffordi are much paler,and do not develop to be near as pretty as the atriceps. : I live up north of you in Canada(Y'know,the Great White North),and to the best of my knowledge,the trio I keep is the only adult one in my Country.They are currently in brumation,and I hope to breed them this coming season. : I have researched every(limited)resource I could find on these guys,and the alleged other 7 ssp,and from your description,I have no doubt of its identity.Cliffordi also never lose all of their original juvie pattern. : Hope it helps. : KEN in Canada : : I have a so-called Pakistani Jewel ratsnake, according to the breeder 'Spalerosophis D atricepts'. Initially looking like an 8" baby gopher snake, it turned strawberry-red at 2 yrs old with a gloss black head & tail plus scattered black blotches down his 4 ft long body. He behaves more like a racer than a ratsnake although handleable and not nippy. But there is apparently another subspecies (possibly Spalerosophis d cliffordi) that changes to pale yellow with the same black blotches. Can anyone verlfy this is the right subspecies, or do they keep/breed this color subspecies?

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