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Posted by jeff on November 07, 2001 at 13:20:00:

In Reply to: Toxic shock? posted by Derek B on November 07, 2001 at 09:36:21:

: : : Hey jeff, whatever happened to your "twisting" obsoleta? Is it still alive? Did you figure out what caused it? Hope everything turned out okay.

: : : Derek B
: : To get back to Derek and all, she is still alive and had me very worried for a while. I asked Don Soderberg(whom I got the clutch from)because he has had so much experience and he said it sounded like toxic shock. I had already isolated her in a shallow bath of room temp water overnite. The "twisting" stopped but she still has some lingering affects that I hope reside in time. She ate for me last nite so the worst may be over. Its not too often that a hatchling has this serious of a condition and lives to tell about it. Thanks for all those that helped,Jeff

: Toxic Shock...from what? I have been breeding obsoleta of all types for 10 years and haven't had one exhibit that type of behavior. I'm not arguing that it might not be right, just wondering the source of toxicity.

: Derek B

Derek, I wish I knew. I have seen wc yellows act like this when I have placed a no pest strip in a cage that was not well ventilated so I know what Don meant by it. I just cant come up with an agent. I have 20 other hatchlings, 12 from this same clutch and none exibit these symptoms. Wierd. I'm thinking it has to due with some kind of heating/cooling nerve problem. I have never heard of such a thing, but I know its not chemicals, food supply, or substrate. Maybe, just maybe its from inhaling the "toxic" fumes of a regurged meal in close quarters. I'll keep you updated,Jeff

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: : : : Hey jeff, whatever happened to your "twisting" obsoleta? Is it still alive? Did you figure out what caused it? Hope everything turned out okay. : : : : Derek B : : : To get back to Derek and all, she is still alive and had me very worried for a while. I asked Don Soderberg(whom I got the clutch from)because he has had so much experience and he said it sounded like toxic shock. I had already isolated her in a shallow bath of room temp water overnite. The "twisting" stopped but she still has some lingering affects that I hope reside in time. She ate for me last nite so the worst may be over. Its not too often that a hatchling has this serious of a condition and lives to tell about it. Thanks for all those that helped,Jeff : : Toxic Shock...from what? I have been breeding obsoleta of all types for 10 years and haven't had one exhibit that type of behavior. I'm not arguing that it might not be right, just wondering the source of toxicity. : : Derek B : Derek, I wish I knew. I have seen wc yellows act like this when I have placed a no pest strip in a cage that was not well ventilated so I know what Don meant by it. I just cant come up with an agent. I have 20 other hatchlings, 12 from this same clutch and none exibit these symptoms. Wierd. I'm thinking it has to due with some kind of heating/cooling nerve problem. I have never heard of such a thing, but I know its not chemicals, food supply, or substrate. Maybe, just maybe its from inhaling the "toxic" fumes of a regurged meal in close quarters. I'll keep you updated,Jeff

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