Keeping records.....and a look at the diones........

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Posted by Terry on May 14, 2000 at 06:58:07:

In Reply to: Elaphe breeders cooperation......Thank You very much. It is needed. posted by Pedersen,S�e on May 13, 2000 at 11:43:04:

: Hi Terry
: The idea is out now. Let us hope that there will be many joining this program in order to keep on having these lovely snakes.Many are already seldom seen or bred, and we need to get together to insure the use of all the genpool. If possible try also to seperate the animals with an exact collection location. Animals like dione have a very large distribution, and might not be very closely related.
: Will it be made on a seperate homepage? If so please place the address here.
: Best wishes
: S�e

Thank you, Soe,

I do not have any web pages set up yet, but plans are to work on them this summer when I have more time. I plan to just store the info on my computer until we get more organized. I think other people are trying to address this issue too, and eventually someone will become the keeper of records. It doesn't have to be me.

You're right, the info should be available to all, and I want to see that happen eventually. Sometimes, now, people call me and ask, "Who has what?", and I try to direct them to the right people. But part of the problem is that many of the people who keep certain species are breeders, and/or business people, who don't have time to correspond about this.

As to your comments about Dion's, or Steppes, ratsnakes, I'm on top of that one. This is one of my main species, and I'm totally committed to learning everything about them and keeping different forms separated. Like you I believe that forms from different locations can be kept distinct, and might possibly even be separated into new species some day. This taxa needs a lot of work, but this won't happen if specimens are not available.

When my web site goes up sometime this summer (probably later), you will be able to see South Korean dione that I bet you've never seen before. These guys are really beautiful; they make fabulous pets; and they look really different from other dione. Their behavior and ecology is very different from other forms, and yet you can still see the relationship. Since they are so distinct I've been trying very hard to breed them, and it is my main project this year. The female just now is going into the pre-laying shed cycle. I can't wait to see hatchlings here, and will keep you guys posted. I hope, if anyone gets anymore snakes from South Korea, to contact me so we can coordinate our efforts, and compare our animals.

Other forms of dione that I keep are the Central Chinese dione (distinct from more northern forms), and the Ukrainian dione, which is also like a different species. My Ukrainian female reabsorbed her eggs this year, but they are both fine now, and we will try again next year. The Central Chinese dione are doing fine, but I'm not sure if they've bred, yet. I have seven babies left from last year (two clutches from two females). These are a fine pet species too, as most dione are. The ones from more southerly locations seem to be easier to keep so far.

Thanks again for your kind comments, Soe, and keep me posted as to what is happening with these species in Europe. I know you have the Central Chinese and Ukrainian over there, but what about some South Koreans? Talk to you later.

Respectfully,
TC

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: : Hi Terry : : The idea is out now. Let us hope that there will be many joining this program in order to keep on having these lovely snakes.Many are already seldom seen or bred, and we need to get together to insure the use of all the genpool. If possible try also to seperate the animals with an exact collection location. Animals like dione have a very large distribution, and might not be very closely related. : : Will it be made on a seperate homepage? If so please place the address here. : : Best wishes : : S�e : : Thank you, Soe, : I do not have any web pages set up yet, but plans are to work on them this summer when I have more time. I plan to just store the info on my computer until we get more organized. I think other people are trying to address this issue too, and eventually someone will become the keeper of records. It doesn't have to be me. : You're right, the info should be available to all, and I want to see that happen eventually. Sometimes, now, people call me and ask, "Who has what?", and I try to direct them to the right people. But part of the problem is that many of the people who keep certain species are breeders, and/or business people, who don't have time to correspond about this. : As to your comments about Dion's, or Steppes, ratsnakes, I'm on top of that one. This is one of my main species, and I'm totally committed to learning everything about them and keeping different forms separated. Like you I believe that forms from different locations can be kept distinct, and might possibly even be separated into new species some day. This taxa needs a lot of work, but this won't happen if specimens are not available. : When my web site goes up sometime this summer (probably later), you will be able to see South Korean dione that I bet you've never seen before. These guys are really beautiful; they make fabulous pets; and they look really different from other dione. Their behavior and ecology is very different from other forms, and yet you can still see the relationship. Since they are so distinct I've been trying very hard to breed them, and it is my main project this year. The female just now is going into the pre-laying shed cycle. I can't wait to see hatchlings here, and will keep you guys posted. I hope, if anyone gets anymore snakes from South Korea, to contact me so we can coordinate our efforts, and compare our animals. : Other forms of dione that I keep are the Central Chinese dione (distinct from more northern forms), and the Ukrainian dione, which is also like a different species. My Ukrainian female reabsorbed her eggs this year, but they are both fine now, and we will try again next year. The Central Chinese dione are doing fine, but I'm not sure if they've bred, yet. I have seven babies left from last year (two clutches from two females). These are a fine pet species too, as most dione are. The ones from more southerly locations seem to be easier to keep so far. : Thanks again for your kind comments, Soe, and keep me posted as to what is happening with these species in Europe. I know you have the Central Chinese and Ukrainian over there, but what about some South Koreans? Talk to you later. : Respectfully, : TC

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