:Terry-- I should produce one or two clutches this year. I still want to own every elaphe in klaus's book. What a goal. I'm not sure I will ever make it but it should be fun trying. Rick
::Texas rat snakes? You don't suggest that you can keep Old World and New World at the same time? LOL One thing I've learned was that you can keep Asians and North American rat snakes in your collection and they will be just fine. Do you have a mate for the leucistic? Nice looking leucistic.