I was just ribbing you on posting pics. I know yu've been out of town and may not feel like doing a lot of pic posting. You usually time a real nice enjoyable picture show about this time of year. Sponsors of this forum usually can or should be allowed do long continous pic threads. How else am I supposed to let my wife know what other snakes I just have to get this year. LOL I didn't know you had white sided black rat snakes. You just keep coming up with something new you're working with. I'll talk to you soon.