Thanks Terry, it was my pleasure meeting you and your wife last year also. I had a great time getting out in the field with the 'gang' down in San Diego. Even though we only saw a few snakes. We need to do it again this year. Give me a ring this weekend. I'm still in the middle of moving and have left the snakes where they are in order to not change their environments too much. Last year I did that and it messed up the whole program. I've been really lucky so far this year and have landed two beautiful litters of boas (i know they are not ratsnakes but i have to breed something that will sell :)) including some albinos and some dh for sunglows. Well drop me a line when you are in town!