Re: Candle the eggs for veins to check fertility.

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Posted by Walt Deptula on March 10, 2000 at 12:16:33:

In Reply to: Re: Candle the eggs for veins to check fertility. posted by HDEAN on March 09, 2000 at 10:16:56:

: : Well, I had 11 eggs, but not all were fertilized. Yes, I've opened them up to check and they weren't fertilized. I also had three eggs stuck together, The middle one got moulded pretty bad so I cut it out to save the other ones, this one was fertilized unfortunately but it gives me hope for the rest.
: : They were laid about 16 days ago so I don't think they're about to hatch right now. As I understand it it will take about 6 weeks for that to happen.
: : When the egges were laid they were bright white, after a short time, let's say a day, some became brownish. Now 4 eggs, of the remaining 6, are brownish and caving in, one is getting mouldy but I try to keep it clean.
: : One egg is big and pretty white and one egg is very white but hasn't grown at all.
: : what else do you need to know??

: : : You say 6 left. What happened to the others? Did they hatch? If these are close to hatching, they will dimple. How about a little more info. how long ago were the eggs laid? were they always this color? if the others hatched, how long ago was that?
: : : *D*

: RIK, Save yourself the headache.
: The first thing you should do is candle the eggs to see if they are fertile. Being white doesn't mean they are fertile. Candle the remaining eggs with a penlight in the dark and see if veins are present. If not, then nothing you do can hatch an infertile egg. Having bad eggs touching good eggs doesn't hurt good eggs either. They are tough and will still hatch. Don't worry with trying to keep eggs clean. I can show you photos of black mouldy eggs surrounding good eggs and the good eggs still hatched. You don't know how many people think they did something wrong because eggs "went bad" when they were bad to start with but looked good. I've had eggs stay white and firm past the due date for hatching when I knew they were infertile because when candled showed no veins. By the way it should take around 60-70 days at 82 degrees for eggs to hatch. HDEAN

Henry Dean stole my answer. (grin) I agree completely with Henry on this. Well said Henry.
Eggs can stay white past hatch date and be infertile. Eggs are are extremely tolerant of a wide range of conditional factors, icluding humidity and temperatures. It is almost impossible for a keeper to kill good eggs regardless of how they are incubated (excepting temps over 90 or zero humidity). Eggs will even hatch incubated at room temperature although it will take longer. As Henry said, either they were good to start or they were not, with rare exception.

Walt

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: : : : Well, I had 11 eggs, but not all were fertilized. Yes, I've opened them up to check and they weren't fertilized. I also had three eggs stuck together, The middle one got moulded pretty bad so I cut it out to save the other ones, this one was fertilized unfortunately but it gives me hope for the rest. : : : They were laid about 16 days ago so I don't think they're about to hatch right now. As I understand it it will take about 6 weeks for that to happen. : : : When the egges were laid they were bright white, after a short time, let's say a day, some became brownish. Now 4 eggs, of the remaining 6, are brownish and caving in, one is getting mouldy but I try to keep it clean. : : : One egg is big and pretty white and one egg is very white but hasn't grown at all. : : : what else do you need to know?? : : : : You say 6 left. What happened to the others? Did they hatch? If these are close to hatching, they will dimple. How about a little more info. how long ago were the eggs laid? were they always this color? if the others hatched, how long ago was that? : : : : *D* : : : RIK, Save yourself the headache. : : The first thing you should do is candle the eggs to see if they are fertile. Being white doesn't mean they are fertile. Candle the remaining eggs with a penlight in the dark and see if veins are present. If not, then nothing you do can hatch an infertile egg. Having bad eggs touching good eggs doesn't hurt good eggs either. They are tough and will still hatch. Don't worry with trying to keep eggs clean. I can show you photos of black mouldy eggs surrounding good eggs and the good eggs still hatched. You don't know how many people think they did something wrong because eggs "went bad" when they were bad to start with but looked good. I've had eggs stay white and firm past the due date for hatching when I knew they were infertile because when candled showed no veins. By the way it should take around 60-70 days at 82 degrees for eggs to hatch. HDEAN : Henry Dean stole my answer. (grin) I agree completely with Henry on this. Well said Henry. : Eggs can stay white past hatch date and be infertile. Eggs are are extremely tolerant of a wide range of conditional factors, icluding humidity and temperatures. It is almost impossible for a keeper to kill good eggs regardless of how they are incubated (excepting temps over 90 or zero humidity). Eggs will even hatch incubated at room temperature although it will take longer. As Henry said, either they were good to start or they were not, with rare exception. : Walt

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