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Re: a few questions on subocs morphs...


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Posted by Aaron on February 13, 2003 at 22:55:59:

In Reply to: a few questions on subocs morphs... posted by jeph on February 12, 2003 at 12:03:19:

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: Hi,
: I was wondering if the blonde phase trans-pecos is a form of hypomelanism or not ?, or is the blonde phase just that, the blonde phase, and so would a hypo subocs look differnt ?, and also I'm assuming that the silver/axanthic phase is an anerythristic. Both of these phases are extremely beautiful and i've been thinking about putting together a collection of subocs, and I'm just trying to find out about all the morphs. Also have any of you-(suboc breeders) heard of a leustic trans-pecos ?, and has anybody bred albino x silver to produce double het for snow ?, also is there locality specimens around too ?, thanks for your time and look forward to hearing whats out there.
:Jeff Teel

First I think blonde is a simple recessive, right? 'Cause I've seen hets for sale. I heard from an experienced alterna hunter a couple things about the blondes. It's well known that blondes are found in the wild around Terlingua. But what he told me is that in Mexico the blondes are more common on areas of a certain type of limestone and that is the same kind of limestone found in the Terlingua area. I've also heard of one blonde being found in the Xmas Mtns. and one at Black Gap. He claimed those were released or escaped specimens, Wild Horse is right in the Xmas Mtns. and alot of snake hunters stay there so it's very possible a blonde could have escaped. Black Gap also has a hotel so an escapee is possible there too. There's also a ranger station there and sometimes the ranger decides to enforce their (illegitamate) interpratation of game hunting laws that says you can't hunt from a vehicle and apply them to non-game animals like snakes and it's possible the ranger could have intimidated someone into letting their snakes go.
I have Xmas Mtns. and Black Gap subocs I hope to produce in 2004.
I haven't heard of many other people keeping locality subocs. One of the albinos the Barkers have was wild collected as a neonate by Dave Long on the River Rd. (FM 170).





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