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Posted by Ophidiophile on October 29, 2002 at 18:12:08:
In Reply to: Stinker pic and a question or two... posted by Yasser on October 29, 2002 at 17:45:17:
Nice snake Yasser. If you like it now, you're going to love watching it change over the next year. The transformation from tan to black and yellow is really fantastic to watch. As for their status as "Elaphe" I don't know of any new work on carinata, but it's likely that they'll be taken out of Elaphe at some point. Right now I have 1.1 that are about 18 months old, 4 ft. long, and have already changed color. They are het-for-amel that are from a c.b. Kavney male bred to a w.c. amelanistic female. Enjoy yours!
:This is a female Stinker we just got from Jim Kavney. I was much more impressed with them in person. These are unreal snakes. They are a species we have longed to work with and now we are. But now that I've seen them in hand, I notice that they seem very un-ratsnake like and seem to remind me of asian Water snake species and natricines. They also brought to mind the False water cobra and american racers and water snakes.
:They are more robustly built than I thought I knew them to be from pictures. Now my question to you ratsnake freaks is, where does it stand evolutionarily and genetically in comparison to other asian rats? I have heard that these snakes would be a strong candidate for their own genus as they seem to be quite divergent. So what do you guys think of them for these aspects? Also, anyone know if there has been study done on the possibilty of toxic duvernoy's secretions from this species? I know that question is a stretch but they do look quite similar to species that have now been proven to have somewhat surprisingly toxic duvernoy's secretions.
:Thanks!
:-Yasser
