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Posted by TheVE on October 12, 2002 at 01:58:05:
In Reply to: In regards to your comments.. posted by sbogill on October 11, 2002 at 18:14:30:
:I am an apprentice of the KE. A deciple if you will. I owe everything I have to him and I take serious offense to anyone attacking the character of such a great man, which you obveously have.
:>>I agree with you here. I must confess that I sometimes watch these TV shows just to get a chance to see species that I will never get a change to see in the wild. I don't expect that I'll ever get over to Africa, Asia, or Australia. I get a kick out of seeing up close footage of Black Mambas, King Cobra, Tiapans, Gaboon vipers, Puff Adders and so on and so forth. I realize these are all staged events. I do hope at some time in the future to do some herping in Central and/or South America however. Maybe I'll get to see a Red-Tailed Boa or a Bushmaster in it's own natural habitat. I hope so.
:A ture herper would not say such tings as "I don't expect that I'll ever get over to Africa, Asia, or Australia." If you really wanted to see the animals on those continents, you would go yourself. You would not have some half-wit get paid a few million dollars a year to go do it for you. This is a sign of weakness and had you been taught how to be a true herper as I have, you would have been ride of your weaknesses long ago.
:>>I pity the next generation coming down the pike. I call them the "Bevis & Butthead" and/or "Nintendo" generation. I certainly am doing my best to instill a love of nature and the outdoors to my own two children (they have a Nintindo but they do NOT watch Bevis & Butthead) as well as any youngsters who will listen. I am sometimes asked to give talks in front of groups kids, such as scouting groups or classrooms. I'm trying my best to get the word out about nature and conservation. I couldn't agree with you more that one's only exposure to the outdoors should not (or must not) be limited to the Discovery Channel. If that is the case, I think that our conservation efforts may be doomed.
:I do not want your pitty. I am of this "Bevis and Butthead" era and I do not appreciate being treated as a mindless drone when I have probably travled and herped three times more than you had at my young age.
:>>I would find it hard to believe that many people of my age (35 years old) or younger could have possibly logged any more time in the field than I have in my countless, countless hours which represent my 18+ years of experience. I remember getting ridiculed by some of my (non-herper) friends just last summer because I rolled up over 3,000 miles on car within 1 week by pounding the pavement just within my own locality (i.e. no cross-country trips involved). That's over 400 miles (and a tank and a half of gas) per night that week alone. And in my case this is the norm rather than the exception when conditions are favorable.
:I too am in the field quite often but I think our definitions of "field" differ slightly. If you are in a car on a road, you are not truly in the field or for that matter, nature. Anybody can get in a car and drive around with the ac on looking down at the road. But to truly be in the field, you have to be so deep in the woods that you can't remeber which way you came from. That is what true herping is all about. No wonder you have never found a morph. It must be hard looking for snakes in the headlights of a car.
:I do not appreciate your attack on my mentor and I would much appreciate it if you did not attack his or any other Extraordinaire's character again.
:Never Doubt Him!
:Never Doubt Us!
:Peter VE
