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Posted by dh on September 27, 2002 at 13:00:13:
In Reply to: Because.....> posted by Terry Cox on September 14, 2002 at 07:21:39:
:...they are more closely related to emoryi than guttata, and since "emoryi" is still considered by most to be a subspecies of "guttata", and the fact that "intermontana" is supposed to have intergrades with "emoryi", they are considered "emoryi". However, I would put my two cents in here and say that I don't agree. I think "intermontana" is quite isolated and can be readily distinguished from "emoryi". I also think that "emoryi" is quite distinct from "guttata" and there either aren't any intergrades, or the intergrades are few and questionable. Thus, I would be in the group that recognizes Elaphe emoryi, and I would make intermontana a ssps. of them, thus being E. emoryi intermontana. If that is never going to happen, then another possibility would be to make them, E. guttata intermontana (there's already E. g. guttata, E. g. emoryi, and E. g. meahllmorum). There's always the other extreme too. They might get considered a separate species someday, along with emoryi, and we could get E. guttata, E. emoryi, and E. intermontana, although I seriously doubt that, haha.
:Like I said, just my opinion :)
:TC
Sorry to sound so ignorant,but what is E.g.meahllmarum??????And I agree about making E.g.emoryi a seperate spp being that they're different in many ways than a corn.The only reason I posted the message is because I was a bit hacked off that I spent a lot of money on the "ELAPHE" book by D.Shoultz(sorry for the spelling),only for him to decide to take 3 elaphes out and change another 7.I just wish that when people take it on themselves to do this that they would be kind enough to give a decent reason for doing so,and in a place where you can have easy and promp access to the info.
Thanx for the response.....
.......dh
