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Posted by Aaron on September 19, 2002 at 20:01:46:

I have a few questions for the people who say these are not a wc locality morph.
For them to be not natural they would have to be a) a released morph, or b) a cross between a wild KY rat and a released morph.
Right?
So at the time this snake was first seen in the petshop what captive morphs or crosses were in existance? I am not into obsoleta so I could be ignorant here but I've never seen anything that looks like that snake. It is beyond a white-sided black rat and has more color than a leucistic TX rat.
So list the morphs it could have come from please. If this snake is from any combiation of those morph then it would have to be double, triple, etc. homozygous and it would be easy to prove/disprove within the first generation by test breeding to single homozygous specimens of each suspected trait. Unless this is a new dominant gene in which case it could be proven by breeding to a natural normal black rat. I may not have covered every genetic scenerio but the point is if it's not new then it came from something already in existence and it can be test bred.
And this could prove more reliable than DNA if it came from a natural intergrade zone.
One last point when this snake was collected is alot less important than who collected it. It's not uncommon for someone to keep a morph or new animal secret until they are producing babies for sale. The Hueco Mtn. Graybands Dan Johnson is producing have been secret since 1995 but no alterna collecters doubt their purity because of his reputation. Undoubtably now that the secret is out there will be alot more hunters in the Huecos next year.


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