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Posted by Brian Baker on July 18, 2002 at 12:02:32:
In Reply to: Re: I need some help deciding about N. American Rats... posted by Chris Brown on July 18, 2002 at 06:03:50:
: : Are you thinking about subspecies of Elaphe obsoleta (which is sometimes called `North American rat snake' for no good reason), or North American Elaphe generally? You already have an American rat snake, the `red rat snake' (Elaphe guttata), it's just a coincidence of common names that it's not usually called a rat snake... but it is one. : ) Anyways... of Elaphe obsoleta, if you're worried about defensiveness, probably best to avoid Texas rats... the black rats I've met have been pretty calm, and grey rats seem to be much the same... : I have two obsoleta (grey rat) X guttata hybrids, and they're both pretty pleasant snakes. Don't look much initially, but their chololatey colour sort of grows on one after a while. Neither of them are massively enthusiastic about being handled, but aren't aggressive. They just vocalise and complain a bit whilst being handled. : They are pretty big though. My male is 6 feet long. It would be nice to breed them back to my corns and see if I can ultimately end up with a strain of super-large cornsnakes.
How large of a corn do you want?? I have a '00 male that is still growing and is at 4'. I like the corns for what they are, and for "bigger" that is why I have a black rat snake. "Bigger", in my eyes, is not always better. Just my opinion.
Brian
: : : I have posted occasionally in this forum. I currently have a Taiwan beauty snake and a corn snake(well...those are my colubrids, I have a few boas). I was always interested in the American rat snakes, but my friend got an everglades and its personailly deturred me away from them(IT was mean as HELL). But, I am getting over that fact, and every snake is differnt. What is a good american rat snake to get? I really like the black rats...do they have solid colored ones? What is everyones favorite?
