That was quick, just when I thought that this place seemed dead. No offence but I thought it would take a while. Anyways, Matt u seem to share pretty much the same interests as me (read ur previous posts). I plan to establish a CB group hopefully with these ones I'm hoping to get from Gherps. BTW, what size enclosure would be just adequate for a 5' E Coachwhip, at least for a while until I invest in a bigger one. I've only got a 33gal which I thought of using. Would that be ok? Also dya know of anyone further up north who deals in CB of these species? Thanks Matt. Feel free to mail me. Would love to hear more about ur snakes.