Re: Community tanks....again...(long)

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Posted by Eddie on November 08, 2001 at 00:57:03:

In Reply to: Community tanks....again...(long) posted by Al on November 07, 2001 at 21:24:24:

In the wild ponds or creeks newts inhabit there are how many of them in the waters?There are so many that inhabit small ponds even,so a 20 long tank to a 50 g tank would be enough room for about 5 to 10 newts,and in some ponds newts share with other newts and frogs and other aquatic animals,and if newts have no emotion or feelings how would this hurt them?Ive mixed species for years with no problems,I see no evidence of why i should not mix species.Ive even had big bullfrogs with a fb newt for a good while,bullfrogs stayed on land and the newt stayed in the water,but that was before i became an expert at this hobby.I think the reason why some have had bad luck with species mixing is either poor care or one or more of the species were already sick.Remember newts are happy as long as theyre kept cool and fed. :Eddie
: I have misunderstood this issue of community tanks many moons ago. I think what helps me now is that a tank is very, very small (no matter how large) compare to a newts natural habitat. It is kinda like having trace hazardous material leek into your well (very huge water supply) versus someone dumping the same material into your water pitcher you keep in the refridgerator. I know this sounds drastic, but a 20-50 gallon setup with newts is very small in comparison to their natural habitat. I think this applies to the over crowding issue with the same species. There is far enough environmental stress with just keeping them in "Captivity" alone, then adding more stressors of community tanks.
: I know for a fact that my son's painter turtle, crayfish, tree frog, and broken stripe newt have come from the same location (and even habitat), but I would never force them to be in a face to face situation while in captivity....even a 100 gallon setup. I used to think a tank that had many native species from North Carolina would be a very cool setup, but that was out of my own selfishness and not for the good of my captive pets. I can say now all my pets are in separate tanks/setups...6 species of newts, 4 species of salamanders, 2 turtles, 1 frog, 1 dog (oh, I got carried away:)
: Al

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: In the wild ponds or creeks newts inhabit there are how many of them in the waters?There are so many that inhabit small ponds even,so a 20 long tank to a 50 g tank would be enough room for about 5 to 10 newts,and in some ponds newts share with other newts and frogs and other aquatic animals,and if newts have no emotion or feelings how would this hurt them?Ive mixed species for years with no problems,I see no evidence of why i should not mix species.Ive even had big bullfrogs with a fb newt for a good while,bullfrogs stayed on land and the newt stayed in the water,but that was before i became an expert at this hobby.I think the reason why some have had bad luck with species mixing is either poor care or one or more of the species were already sick.Remember newts are happy as long as theyre kept cool and fed. :Eddie : : I have misunderstood this issue of community tanks many moons ago. I think what helps me now is that a tank is very, very small (no matter how large) compare to a newts natural habitat. It is kinda like having trace hazardous material leek into your well (very huge water supply) versus someone dumping the same material into your water pitcher you keep in the refridgerator. I know this sounds drastic, but a 20-50 gallon setup with newts is very small in comparison to their natural habitat. I think this applies to the over crowding issue with the same species. There is far enough environmental stress with just keeping them in "Captivity" alone, then adding more stressors of community tanks. : : I know for a fact that my son's painter turtle, crayfish, tree frog, and broken stripe newt have come from the same location (and even habitat), but I would never force them to be in a face to face situation while in captivity....even a 100 gallon setup. I used to think a tank that had many native species from North Carolina would be a very cool setup, but that was out of my own selfishness and not for the good of my captive pets. I can say now all my pets are in separate tanks/setups...6 species of newts, 4 species of salamanders, 2 turtles, 1 frog, 1 dog (oh, I got carried away:) : : Al :

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