Actually they are both cbb from pure St Mary's stock. The picture is a little misleading. The male is more of an orange than he appears and the female is more red than maroon.
:I swear I am not trying to start @#@#...LOL. But the male looks charecteristic of a NJ(large post orbital stripe,color) and the female that of Calvert,co MD. Did I miss something in the ID?? Let me know,Jeff