Re: Very Serious Flaws With Proposed Guidelines

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Posted by ric Blair on November 11, 1998 at 12:06:39:

In Reply to: Re: Very Serious Flaws With Proposed Guidelines posted by Dave Beamer on November 11, 1998 at 10:48:59:

: Not all herp populations will perish from the face of the earth. While every year more habitat is destroyed more land is also set aside as preserves. If you would change your attitude and stop just watching habitat getting destroyed you could make a difference. Sure habitat will still be destroyed and you can't stop that but you can at least help with the preservation of some lands that will help herps persist. You have a very selfish point of view. All the snakes in that canyon could have went to chinese food markets or to provide tissue samples for genetic work. It was not just a loss to your group. If you start to look at other ways to interact with herps besides just in captivity you may see things in a different light. You can try to wash your hands of these issues as much as you want. The herp trade does damage populations and the state will seek ways to stop these stresses on populations that are already taxed with habitat destruction. Just because it is a small part of the problem doesn't mean it doesn't need to be addressed.
: Dave Beamer

Dave,
It is you that has the selfish point of view. You do not want anyone on this forum to be enabled to pursue anything within reason. We want to meet in the middle. Your views will never go over on this forum. It is like two brick walls meeting. Your breath is being wasted here, as I guarantee you will make no difference and infact are causing people to unite and work harder towards our goals. The people see what they are up against in people like you. And the information you are giving us will help us to combat your extremely pregidicial attitude. Keep the information coming. In talking with other posters it seems to rally us. Keep up the good work. I am glad to see you are not letting apathy and complacency reside. I like to see your hardline attitude is working for us. Were you possibly sent in here to keep us attentive, and find reasons to fight for our rights. I am starting to wonder if you are on out side, and just a pon introduced to keep us on our feet. Good Job, eh. Anyway, keep up the good work.

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: : Not all herp populations will perish from the face of the earth. While every year more habitat is destroyed more land is also set aside as preserves. If you would change your attitude and stop just watching habitat getting destroyed you could make a difference. Sure habitat will still be destroyed and you can't stop that but you can at least help with the preservation of some lands that will help herps persist. You have a very selfish point of view. All the snakes in that canyon could have went to chinese food markets or to provide tissue samples for genetic work. It was not just a loss to your group. If you start to look at other ways to interact with herps besides just in captivity you may see things in a different light. You can try to wash your hands of these issues as much as you want. The herp trade does damage populations and the state will seek ways to stop these stresses on populations that are already taxed with habitat destruction. Just because it is a small part of the problem doesn't mean it doesn't need to be addressed. : : Dave Beamer : Dave, : It is you that has the selfish point of view. You do not want anyone on this forum to be enabled to pursue anything within reason. We want to meet in the middle. Your views will never go over on this forum. It is like two brick walls meeting. Your breath is being wasted here, as I guarantee you will make no difference and infact are causing people to unite and work harder towards our goals. The people see what they are up against in people like you. And the information you are giving us will help us to combat your extremely pregidicial attitude. Keep the information coming. In talking with other posters it seems to rally us. Keep up the good work. I am glad to see you are not letting apathy and complacency reside. I like to see your hardline attitude is working for us. Were you possibly sent in here to keep us attentive, and find reasons to fight for our rights. I am starting to wonder if you are on out side, and just a pon introduced to keep us on our feet. Good Job, eh. Anyway, keep up the good work.

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