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Everyone wants to pass the buck. WHAT ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY?

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Posted by tj on January 14, 2003 at 10:09:24:

In Reply to: Um sorry, but pet stores should give baisc care info. posted by Mario-GN on January 10, 2003 at 11:46:55:

" People do not realize what is involved in the care of these animals. They are simply looking for a pet. People that are too
busy to find information elsewhere."
> That's half the problem, people want what they want and they want it right then and there. If you don't have the time to devote to researching the animal you want to purchase, then A) YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE TIME TO DEVOTE TO THE ANIMAL and B) YOU'RE TOO FREAKING IRRESPONSIBLE TO KEEP THE ANIMAL YOU'RE GOING TO PURCHASE. SO the answer is YES it is up to you to educate yourself and to take the time to learn how to care for the animal. Unless you're not a responsible keeper, and in that case, I'm most likely to see your goldfish swimming around in my lake, or your python hanging out in the Everglades. I don't think that Lyle is way out there at all, actually he seems as though he is one of the few who doesn't want someone else to take responsibility for his actions.

I just got done reading all the replies. I must say, Lyle, you really seem out their.
:Iím sorry you donít agree with who should be responsible for providing the information to care for your customers petís and considering them stupid people. So whoís responsibility is it to educate them? Mine? No, but he sellers. Actually I do provide a care site to help otherís care for their geckos. And Iím just a hobbyist breeder. I feel that it is the responsibility of the seller to inform the customer how to care for the animal, at least provide basic care info. A pet isnít some toy that can sit on the self, or a pair of new mittens. Itís a living creature. Something that depends on the caretaker to provide it with proper husbandry. Now obviously the keeper isnít going to magically know how to care for the animal, but does need someone to show or tell them how. People do not realize what is involved in the care of these animals. They are simply looking for a pet. People that are too busy to find information elsewhere. So where are they going to resort to get this info? From the place that sells them this pet. While I donít agree with the law (or at least the proposals for the law that I seen), I do think itís the responsibility of the seller to inform the buyer how to care for it. What if you had to give up your family dog you loved and cared for for 7 years? Would you simply give it away to someone without saying a word on how to care for it or seeing if the person knew how to care for it? No you wouldnít. Atleast I hope you wouldnít. Why, because you care about the dog. But what about that lizard, snake, or dog in the pet store you sell to someone. Why should that be any different. You do want the animal to live donít you? OR are you just after the bottom line, the profit? Do you just want the pet to die so they can come back and buy a replacement in a month or two? That sounds like greed to me. As far as products not having care sheets, your right. Productís generally do not have care requirements. Products do not die in pain. But products do have directions, instructions, and warnings. Animals donít. So itís the responsibility of the owner. So if you donít think itís the sellers responsibility, whoís is it? Someoneís got to inform them. Itís not anyone elseís responsibility unless they are involved with the animal in some way. Well the only person generally involved is the pet store. So itís your responsibility. Not anyone elseís. You should be thankful there are people like me providing informational sites to educate people on how to care for their pet because the pet store doesnít take the time or responsibility to do so. This is costís me time and money. And youíre the one making the money selling the animal.
:If the pet stores selling an animal, they should know how to care for that animal. After all, they have to care for it until it sells. But no, after reading your postís, it wouldnít surprise me if your like most pet stores and just throughout the dead ones and not worry about the care of that animal until it sells, just so you can make a profit. At all costís. Thatís what supplies are for. This is why most breeders do this as a hobby. Because by the time we sold that animal, we provided more in cost to raise it. Why? Because pet stores want to get it for the cheapest price at all costís. It donít matter how that animal was kept or if its in perfect health, but if itís a few dollars less, letís get it from them.
:Itís sad to see the care of animals in most pet stores. Because they donít want to spend money on it. Thatís a real shame.
:Ivíe went into pet stores and they donít even know what kind of animal they are selling or how to even care for it. Iím sorry put this is wrong. Things do need to change.
:What if you were that little pet. Would you want to be sold to someone that doesnít know how to care for you? I doubt it.

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