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Posted by ECO on February 04, 2002 at 23:58:21:
In Reply to: Re: IF YOU LIVE IN TENNESSEE (and everyone else) READ! posted by Amanda on February 04, 2002 at 23:24:11:
: Is it ok if I take some quotes from this and post flyers on my campus with your e-mail addresses?
: : >NOTE: This letter will be posted on several forums. Expressed permission has been granted by the administrators of kingsnake.com. Permission is granted (and
: : I encourage you to do so) copy and post it, in it's entirety, on other forums at
: : kingsnake.com. Please email me for permission to use it elsewhere.
: : >
: : >Currently, TN has some of the most restrictive laws regarding reptiles &
: : amphibians. WHY?...Because NO ONE (myself included) has ever had the time,
: : guts, support, desire or means to stand up to the people who made these laws.
: : >Recently, the topic of TN laws has been coming up on various forums both here
: : on kingsnake.com, and elsewhere. Several of us "Tennessee locals" have been
: : quietly working behind the scenes to organize an effective "answer" to the
: : situation in TN, and so far, we've met / contacted the following "types" of
: : people.
: : >
: : >1) The..."hey, how can I help" person. These kinds of people are what we need!
: : EXAMPLE: BGF from the venom lab in Australia has contacted the main herp
: : enforcement officer in TN concerning the "snafu" about mangrove snakes, which
: : USED to be legal to have, but NOW are restricted, BECAUSE someone at TWRA
: : (Tennessee Wildlife Resources) heard, (but didn't bother to check) that ONE
: : person (IN ANOTHER COUNTRY TOO!!!) had received a medically significant bite
: : from a mangrove snake.
: : >Others people we have either contacted, or have been contacted by, are willing
: : to put their name and reputation on the line as well, which brings us to the
: : next kind of person...
: : >
: : >2) The..."I don't want to get involved because I don't live in TN" person.
: : Well, guess what folks, the laws of TN regarding captive wildlife ARE BEING
: : LOOKED AT BY OTHER STATES AS A BASIS FOR CHANGING OR MODIFYING THEIR LAWS!
: : >You think your state laws are unfair, move to TN, just make sure you stop on
: : your way in and get an import permit for your herps,.... and if you have ANY
: : venomous species, please apply for a class 1 license, then build a zoo to keep
: : them in.
: : >
: : >3) The "but I don't keep venomous snakes..., all I have is a boa / iguana at
: : home, or a frog in the classroom, or your kids have a pet turtle, not you"
: : person. Again, look at the issues in the news and the ease at which TN
: : justifies adding creatures to it's prohibited list. Have boas or pythons ever
: : caused human fatalities in the USA, .....YES, largely due to their owners
: : carelessness. Are iguanas responsible for creating a dangerous bacterial
: : situation in their environment, sure...just ask the Humane Soc, who is pushing
: : for a ban on ALL reptiles in captivity. Did you or one of your students catch
: : that tadpole or frog in a local pond....? BIG NO-NO, you just broke the law.
: : >
: : >4) The "well what happened to the NRAAC & other organizations....THEY are the
: : ones who should be fighting this, not me" person. Well get used to the idea
: : that for the foreseeable future, the NRAAC no longer exists. It may have been
: : started with the best of intentions, but for now, (due to some factors that I'm
: : aware of, mainly lack of support and commitment from it's members, and other
: : factors I'm sure that I'm not aware of) it is gone.
: : >
: : >5) And finally the "name calling, finger pointing, get-mad-but-do-nothing"
: : person. MANY people have singled out the one person at TWRA who is in charge of
: : exotic species as the "it starts and ends with him" person. THIS IS NOT
: : TRUE...., not totally
: : >anyway. YES, he can be a very "by the book" person. YES, in my opinion he is
: : not willing to consider other's opinions about the laws and possible changes to
: : them in TN.
: : >But I guarantee this..... HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO MAKES THE LAWS, NOR IS HE
: : THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN CHANGE THEM! There is an entire structure of officials,
: : both at TWRA and other government agencies who he, directly or indirectly
: : reports to,.... and ultimately is accountable to.
: : >
: : >Which brings me to my point...., WE NEED TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY
: : THOSE OF YOU IN TENNESSEE!!!! In order to fight for a change, we NEED to know
: : that YOU EXIST!!! Too many people are willing to "never do today what you can
: : put off until tomorrow." Too many people would rather concern themselves ONLY
: : with their own state, (I SUPPORTED CALIFORNIA'S LAW CHANGES THROUGH PHONE CALLS,
: : A LETTER AND EMAILS, AND MY NAME IS ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE SUPPORTING THE NEW
: : PROPOSALS THERE.... I ALSO HAVE VOICED MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED LAWS IN NEW
: : YORK, SOUTH CAROLINA, ALABAMA & INDIANA....., AND I LIVE IN TENNESSEE) But we
: : need to know that you are out there and wish to get involved. In order to do
: : that, we need a way to CONTACT you!
: : >
: : >PLEASE either post below, or email me directly. OUR future, YOUR future,
: : possibly EVERYBODY'S future regarding reptiles & amphibians may depend on
: : hearing from YOU!
: : >
: : >ECO
: : crazycritterguy@hotmail.com
: : Stryder
: : stryder_boa@hotmail.com or stryder_girl@yahoo.com
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