Get out while you still can! Just kidding. I just wanted to say that if you are new in the game, don't be afraid to ask guys who are old heads to help you probe or medicate.In the 70's,John Brunner, one of herpetoculture's true pioneers, took me under his wing. Later on, Jim Merli taught me to probe and pop snakes.I felt dependent on their skills, but learned for myself in no time. Unless you live in a very remote area, help is there for the asking. Don't be embarrassed, or shy, and have to struggle unnecessarily. Steve B.