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Posted by Fred Albury on October 11, 2002 at 22:40:31:
In Reply to: Re: More ? on mating thread... posted by Rob Carmichael on October 11, 2002 at 21:31:58:
:My female was one of the recipients of a violent attack from her mate. In this case, I left them unattended for 15 minutes; that's all it took. Breeding was successful and I had a nice clutch of viable eggs. But, you are absolutely right, you shouldn't leave these snakes unattended and I learned a valuable lesson.
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::From those of you whom have had the misfortune of getting a female trounced by her prospective mate...Did you leave them un-attended, overnight, leave the room, etc???...Not pointing fingers, just want the 411...I do not leave my pairs together if I am not home and I check on them constantly when they are together...If I saw SERIOUS, violent behavior, I would separate them immediately...
::Why did you leave them together long enough to have a female need stitches? Was there copulation at that time?
::I think perhaps this behavior is like the "blind" feeding response...Can't see the mouse, eat themselves,the water dish, etc that we have commented upon before...The "overstimulation" that several of you mentioned, coupled with the abnormal environment of captivity, seems to ring more true for me in this behavior.
::Perhaps proximity to other "breedable" females of the Dry family in the same room...
::Great thread Anthony...Carl Gossett GDH
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Carl...etc al,
The pair that I mentioned in the post below was left alone for a period of about 20 minutes before he inflicted this damage to her and , just as Robs had done, succesfully bred with her. I have left them alone for upwards of 5 hrs+ with no ill efects, but with me checking on them to make sure no mayhem or skullduggery occured, and no damage was inflicted on the female dureing that time period. So much for the leave alone to long and she gets torn up theory. As a side note, my MALE eastern was not hungry at that time and had refused food completely up until the point he mated. "Overstimulation" definetly is a factor in breeding or feding these snakes and the outcome therein. As I said before, we take nature and tweak it for our own devices, we shouldnt be shocked when things go awry now and again.
Thanks all,
Fred Albury
AZTEC REPTILES
