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Posted by Fred Albury on October 11, 2002 at 00:51:28:
In Reply to: My answers... posted by dryguy on October 10, 2002 at 12:42:09:
:AC...I think some time back we had some give and take on these issues...Good questions tho..
:#1 I've always assumed it was a ovulating/stimulating inducing behavior on the part of the male...However,Rattlers have a beautiful courtship routine which is much more sensual!!
:#2 Good question!! I have "know" idea...I believe we see it more intensely in captives because the female can't escape if she's not receptive to breeding at that time...
:#3 I've not noticed increased agression with these tactics by our alpha males in their offspring..
:Also, I've not had any males get really nasty with my females...Luckily the worst I've had is my TX male rubbing the shine of his female..I do have a great picture of my Appalachicola king male with a "death grip" on his intended that is cool(successful mating too!)
:For those of you who have missed me...It's HUNTING SEASON!!! and my thoughts turn from herps to caveman behavior, proving I'm still the baddest to my spouse and bring home the "bacon"(my 16 yr old son outdid me though..Oh the pain of age...Eh' Fred?!)
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::Here is a question by one of my college prof's that got me thinking. This was in response to my detailing of the trials and tribulations ass. with indigo breeding. Here are some questions for those with answers. Great brain candy!
::1. What is the biological advantage of a male indigo ripping apart his female mate to the point where she is dead or near death? How does this help the spp?
::2.Are there any valid reports of this occurrence in the wild?
::3. Have we, captive breeders, bred these snakes like pitbulls with the meanest snakes siring our females to produce a meaner and meaner generation of males?
::We can certainly see sexual dimorphism. Basically in layman's terms, males are bigger in x species because x females only mate with the biggest strongest males. This makes the next generation of males evern larger and so on. We see this in humans (can be linked to ancient ancestry), couperi, birds like boat tailed grackles, and many more.
::Do I know these answers? No. However, I would love to see what everyone thinks on the issue.
Dryguy,
I am not a hunter. My idea of hunting is getting up early, really early and being the first one to the local VONS store just as they put out their turkey and chicken and beef wares, shrink wrapped, deboned and appropriately dyed to look fresh.
I, ironically enough , can track very well, and have done so in the past for hunting parties. But dont do it anymore, most I do in that area is take my godson out and show him how to track until we find something local, which he is amzed by(Coyote for instance)
I feel you on the age thing, I am in better shape than 80% of the guys my age but have enough injuries to fill a medical dissertation of a gradstudent. lol I am a hurtin unit.
Well thats all for now
