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Fred, I think ive got that answer...


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Posted by regalringneck on August 04, 2002 at 15:11:49:

In Reply to: \ posted by Fred Albury on August 04, 2002 at 13:17:08:

Fred, you ask a good [albeit rhetorical]?; What we wont do to get our living gems (my words) to feed...
The answer would appear [for most denizens of this forum anyway...]; is to offer them what they're genetically programmed to eat... rather than what we want them to eat!
A post shed neonate [partic. a CB one] shouldnt have to be cajoled to feed, provided it feels secure & is at the right temp, & IS OFFERED THE APPROPRIATE PREY. Having said that, one should offer the easy stuff first, & then divide the brood up & offer fairly soon; lizards/frogs/minnows; whatever they will take to the fussy ones. It makes evolutionary sense that neonate colubrids should avoid rodent scent as theres a good chance of them being killed if they go there.
Funnily enough, I & a few of my associates have had near zero response w/ the brain split technique! I have even had good feeders [rock boas & kingsnakes] refuse mice when there was too much gore around the head??? It makes sense tho, when you consider the natural situation which is the skin scent w/ head intact.

C&B; jg

:::...THANKS!!!

:::I acquired a pair of '02 blacktail cribos almost 3 weeks ago. The male is fairly calm, and eats fuzzies pretty well (he does like a little privacy, though, LOL).

:::The female, however, is another matter. She hasn't eaten since I got her before today. SO today I decided maybe fuzzies look to big to her, so I gave her a 2 day old pink. The thing crawled all over her head, but she ignored it and just watched me. She's more prone to defensive reaction than the male.

:::Well, as I was feeding my other snakes, I had a frozen/thawed small hopper. More like a mature fuzzy. For some reason I suddenly remembered reading somewhere about "braining." I though it was worth a shot, even though I was pretty sure it wouldn't work. I've never heard of snake that won't take live food but will take thawed.

:::Nonetheless, I took out my knife and cut open the hoppers head and some of the brain matter oozed out. I dropped this in with her and set about continuing the feeding of the other snakes. To my sheer amazement, when I glanced over at her a minute or so later, she had the hopper's head in her mouth! I froze, afraid movement might make her drop it. Eventually she swallowed the whole thing. I was afraid it would be too big for her, but it wasn't too noticeable.

:::Anyway, thanks to whoever posted the suggestion of braining. I'm very relieved she ate.
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:Guys,

:SORRY:) I couldnt resist, as a fan of Alice in Wonderland, and the Wizard of Oz(Best movies ever made, my opinion btw)
:I thought Id throw that in there.

:Split braining works, allthough it is a tad gruesome. If anyone here has seen the movie 'Hellraiser"(Saw it along time ago) the inital one the lady lures victims into the house so that her beau can suck their energy dry. Feeding spilt brains is kinda like that, the last resort before force feeding. Sometimes I wonder what we WONT do to get our snakes to eat.lololol

:But split braining works, fussy feders often SLURP(Sorry for gross description) those pinkies right up. Personally,I try EVERYTHING before I go to splitbraining or force feeding.. I have had snakes that I force fed and they STILL wont feed...go figure? If you cut into the skull and spread all the due-matter over the top of the head like peanut butter, then the snake usually takes it right off. Well, thats al for now,I no longer want my breakfast.. Ugh.splitbraining.lol........

: Fred
: Aztec Reptiles U.S.A. Earth

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