good points...more

Posted by Dean Alessandrini on February 08, 2002 at 17:44:25:

In Reply to: Re: on programs to re-esablish indigos.... posted by regalringneck on February 08, 2002 at 17:21:08:

One of the biggest obstacles to indigo conservation is that there are no good survey methods. It is done now simply by walking habitat, looking for shed skins and other evidence. It is my opinion that although indigos seem to thrive using gt burrows as a primary retreat, they do not NEED them. Research on KSC indicated that they are just as likely to use mammal burrows, tree stumps and even trash piles as retreats and possible nesting sites.

It would seem the best place to try an introduction may be RESTORED habitat, where populations have died off because of habitat destruction or fragmentation, but the habitat has now been restored and protected. Do those areas even exist???

True where suitable habitat has never been corrupted, it is likely that the snakes are still there and holding their own, with no need for interference.

The one point I disagree with you on is releasing year old cb snakes. Although it makes sense that they would be larger and stronger, it has been shown that snakes rasied in captivity for any period adjust and their instincts even change to adjust to their captive conditions.

Maybe is they were raised in an outdoor encloser and left to hunt on their own...but that would not be easy to accomplish.

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• Re: good points...more dan felice 02/09/02 (4)
  • Re: good points...more dave f 02/09/02 (3)
    • here's why I have doubts about cb yearlings.... Dean Alessandrini 02/09/02 (2)
      • Re: here's why I have doubts about cb yearlings.... dan felice 02/09/02 (1)
        • Re: Conditioned Juveniles. Norman 02/09/02 (0)

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: One of the biggest obstacles to indigo conservation is that there are no good survey methods. It is done now simply by walking habitat, looking for shed skins and other evidence. It is my opinion that although indigos seem to thrive using gt burrows as a primary retreat, they do not NEED them. Research on KSC indicated that they are just as likely to use mammal burrows, tree stumps and even trash piles as retreats and possible nesting sites. : It would seem the best place to try an introduction may be RESTORED habitat, where populations have died off because of habitat destruction or fragmentation, but the habitat has now been restored and protected. Do those areas even exist??? : True where suitable habitat has never been corrupted, it is likely that the snakes are still there and holding their own, with no need for interference. : The one point I disagree with you on is releasing year old cb snakes. Although it makes sense that they would be larger and stronger, it has been shown that snakes rasied in captivity for any period adjust and their instincts even change to adjust to their captive conditions. : Maybe is they were raised in an outdoor encloser and left to hunt on their own...but that would not be easy to accomplish.

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