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Posted by Rob Carmichael on November 27, 2001 at 15:04:07:

In Reply to: something I need to get off my chest... posted by Dean Alessandrini on November 27, 2001 at 12:27:35:

Dean, I am in 100% complete agreement with you. As Fred said, everyone wants what's new. People in this hobby feel like they have to have the newest morph on the market to better the next person; never mind that they actually know nothing about proper husbandry and things like that. Few people have the commitment to keep a snake long term because they get bored so quickly (I have a 30+ year old ball python that is as NORMAL as they come and I love him that way). I can't even find true okeetee corns or a true bullsnake anymore! And then, I see what breeders are charging and what people are willing to pay; just because it is different or new. I truly hope that hobbyists/breeders will someday go back to basics...the way things are going right now, there will come a day when a good old fashioned boa constrictor, okeetee corn, chain king, etc. will be the hottest snake on the market...if we will even be able to find any! I will stick with the true color variants from diverse and genetically true bloodlines and I hope other breeders will follow. I think that is what makes working with Drymarchon so exciting, most who breed them truly admire them for what there uniqueness and beauty....no need to change a snake that is already one of the most stunning snakes in the world...and that is without any human manipulation. Glad to hear someone else who feels the same.

: You know this doesn't direcly pertain to indigos, but I thought I'd look to this group for some support. I check out the colubrid classifieds daily, and I go to a fair amount of shows.

: What is happening to this hobby? Albino nelsons, hypomel. hondurans, Reverse blood red zig-zag zipper (het for snow and chocolate-chip cookie dough blizzard) corns.

: ...not to mention the "jungle corns" and various other hybrids.

: I saw a post on the pituophis forum the other day with a pic of a "scaleless" gopher snake. That one really got to me.

: What the hell ? What's next...het for blind? cool looking scales where the eyes should be? het for legs?

: It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't that seems to really be the way the hobby is headed. the majority of what's on the market are animals the likes of which you would NEVER see in the wild. Man-made.

: It hard to find NORMAL snakes like chain kings (normal ones) and corns that aren't HET FOR ANYTHING!!

: I miss nice REGULAR black and white northen pines. Stuff like that.

: It would be really nice if the hobby would take a turn back in that direction...but I don't see it happening.

: I simply do not find these man made critters interesting at all.

: The Drymarchon community seems to be above all this, at least for now. Let's keep it that way.

: Stepping off my soapbox now...

:
: Dean Alessandrini

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: Dean, I am in 100% complete agreement with you. As Fred said, everyone wants what's new. People in this hobby feel like they have to have the newest morph on the market to better the next person; never mind that they actually know nothing about proper husbandry and things like that. Few people have the commitment to keep a snake long term because they get bored so quickly (I have a 30+ year old ball python that is as NORMAL as they come and I love him that way). I can't even find true okeetee corns or a true bullsnake anymore! And then, I see what breeders are charging and what people are willing to pay; just because it is different or new. I truly hope that hobbyists/breeders will someday go back to basics...the way things are going right now, there will come a day when a good old fashioned boa constrictor, okeetee corn, chain king, etc. will be the hottest snake on the market...if we will even be able to find any! I will stick with the true color variants from diverse and genetically true bloodlines and I hope other breeders will follow. I think that is what makes working with Drymarchon so exciting, most who breed them truly admire them for what there uniqueness and beauty....no need to change a snake that is already one of the most stunning snakes in the world...and that is without any human manipulation. Glad to hear someone else who feels the same. : : You know this doesn't direcly pertain to indigos, but I thought I'd look to this group for some support. I check out the colubrid classifieds daily, and I go to a fair amount of shows. : : What is happening to this hobby? Albino nelsons, hypomel. hondurans, Reverse blood red zig-zag zipper (het for snow and chocolate-chip cookie dough blizzard) corns. : : ...not to mention the "jungle corns" and various other hybrids. : : I saw a post on the pituophis forum the other day with a pic of a "scaleless" gopher snake. That one really got to me. : : What the hell ? What's next...het for blind? cool looking scales where the eyes should be? het for legs? : : It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't that seems to really be the way the hobby is headed. the majority of what's on the market are animals the likes of which you would NEVER see in the wild. Man-made. : : It hard to find NORMAL snakes like chain kings (normal ones) and corns that aren't HET FOR ANYTHING!! : : I miss nice REGULAR black and white northen pines. Stuff like that. : : It would be really nice if the hobby would take a turn back in that direction...but I don't see it happening. : : I simply do not find these man made critters interesting at all. : : The Drymarchon community seems to be above all this, at least for now. Let's keep it that way. : : Stepping off my soapbox now... : : : : Dean Alessandrini

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