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Posted by Les4toads on April 27, 2003 at 15:56:36:
In Reply to: Import/Export and the Lacey Act posted by Jeff Judd on April 27, 2003 at 11:16:18:
:Import and export laws are state specific. For instance in California it is illegal to sell, import and export the native species(mcalli,platyrhinos,douglasi,and coronatum) unless under a special permit, all native captive bred offspring must be given away within 45 days. It is perfectly legal for me to breed, sell, trade, import and export all the non native species of horned lizards (excerpt :Except as otherwise provided in federal law, the Fish and Game Code or Section 671, no permit is required to import, export, transport, possess, propagate, buy or sell nonnative reptiles or amphibians.) see for youself here: http://www.californiafishandgame.com/ca/district/reptiles/rep.htm
:You are in violation of the Lacey act only if you have broken a state law in the state where the animal or plant is coming from or where it is going to. See for yourself here:http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/16/3372.html
:Jeff, why is it that the only HL allowed in the pet trade in California is the Roundtail Horned Lizard? I know the laws because I work with the laws. I see it in action all of the time. I have seen nearly all species of HLs in the pet trade in California and I report such. I have worked with F&W in the illegal trade of protected species in states such as New York, New Jersey, Florida, and others that have had HLs that are not allowed in the pet trade. I have taken "custody" of HLs through action by F&G, as well as F&W action. If you want to argue law, then do it in court. Lester G. Milroy III
