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Re: Picky Eaters!


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Posted by WYOtoads on September 24, 2002 at 23:01:37:

In Reply to: Re: Picky Eaters! posted by Les4toads on September 24, 2002 at 16:31:16:

::I have gotten some great information from Christy on getting ants but having looked at these sites I don't think that is going to work! My babies do not like harvester ants. I have been feeding them small black/red ants from my driveway everyday and they really like them. If I give them the harvester ants they will not eat. I have not tried crickets yet but I was reading that horned lizards need a supplement of ants for their nutrtional value, but they will not eat those ansty ants-what can I do? I was thinking perhaps I could collect some of the ants I feed now and make sure I have a couple Queens and raise my own. Any suggestions? I live in Wyoming so winter is quickly approaching! Thanks in advance!

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::The ants you are feeding the baby HLs are probably Harvester Ants. Harvester ants do just that, they harvest seed from plants for food. There are many different genus/species of harvester ants: Pogonomyrmex, Messor, and Solenopsis are just 3 genera of Harvester Ants. If the babies eat them, feed them that ant. If you are thinking about starting an ant colony for food supplies for the HLs, you need to do some major and serious research. Entomologists and Myrmycologists have tried to start ant colonies and continue to fail (In the lab and in the wild). Queen Ants are very perculiar about where to start their nests and cannot be coaxed to do so. They decide. You may collect what you think are Queen ants but are really drones, or male ants, and of course we know that males do not lay eggs or start nests. HLs need a majority of their diet to be ants (at least 85 - 90 %). Other insect prey are the snacks. Lester G. Milroy III
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Okay so these tiny little ants (1/2 cm or less) may be harvester ants, but how can I get these same size ants for my babies? Can I request a certain type of ant from the ant alive place or are they going to send those big red ants? The ants I feed now are in the gravel of my driveway with very small holes. Geez I never thought that I would be researching ants like this. If I were to only be able to get the larger ants what is the best way to introduce them to my babies? I found a site offering pinhead crickets as well and was thinking of supplmenting them as you say a snack. Thanks again for the info!




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