Loren, exactly what state is the HL community in? You sound like a real jerk!! I was tyring to help people out!! Brian McGurty is a scientist doing research and his animals were several year long term captives that produced many generations of living thriving healthy offspring. I also know of several other people who've fed exclusivly non-ant diets whit thier HLs out doors in full natural sun. What studies have you performed? Anything published I can read?