thansk for the input on something I've been trying to get across for a while

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Posted by Jo ann on November 06, 1999 at 22:06:09:

In Reply to: FOR THOSE OF YOU FEEDING AMPHIBIAN FLAVORED MICE TO EASTERNS posted by Dean Alessandrini on November 06, 1999 at 16:07:52:

: I've had several close friends who have produced captive babies from wild-caught adults and did experiments with the offspring. Some were fed young toads or frogs, some fed frog/toad flavored pinks, then mice. (this experiment was done with more than 2 dozen snakes that i know of)

: results were ALWAYS similar. the amphibian fed snakes did great, as did the rodent feeders FOR A WHILE! within 2 years the rodent eaters always DROPPED DEAD! some while young, some at around 2 yrs, but none made it longer than that! many seemed to be doing great until their sudden early deaths. Seems there is somethin in them thar toads these guys need. Just a word to the wise. Other similar experiences? are there those of you out there who have Easterns eating only rodents for more than 2 years that are doing well??

I have been feeding a mixure of rodents and amphibians and the snakes or doing well
It seems that the fat and other things in rodents can be bad for easterns BUT be alert to the fact that you have to find
a safe source for getting your frogs and toads --DO NOT feed the snakes from areas that have been or you suspect may have been sprayed with any type of
insecticides=if you're not sure call the gov't agency that takes care of that-trust me on this one.

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: : I've had several close friends who have produced captive babies from wild-caught adults and did experiments with the offspring. Some were fed young toads or frogs, some fed frog/toad flavored pinks, then mice. (this experiment was done with more than 2 dozen snakes that i know of) : : results were ALWAYS similar. the amphibian fed snakes did great, as did the rodent feeders FOR A WHILE! within 2 years the rodent eaters always DROPPED DEAD! some while young, some at around 2 yrs, but none made it longer than that! many seemed to be doing great until their sudden early deaths. Seems there is somethin in them thar toads these guys need. Just a word to the wise. Other similar experiences? are there those of you out there who have Easterns eating only rodents for more than 2 years that are doing well?? : I have been feeding a mixure of rodents and amphibians and the snakes or doing well : It seems that the fat and other things in rodents can be bad for easterns BUT be alert to the fact that you have to find : a safe source for getting your frogs and toads --DO NOT feed the snakes from areas that have been or you suspect may have been sprayed with any type of : insecticides=if you're not sure call the gov't agency that takes care of that-trust me on this one.

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