......that Ken lives 3,000 miles away and I live near the edge of and FREQUENT the habitat.
......that most of the banded gilas that end up in the "black market" come from that area and a couple of others and usually go to the east coast. I don't believe for a minute that Ken comes to Arizona and poaches, but I've seen MANY pictures of gilas that are obviously(to me) wild caught. I don't blame you guys for not being able to tell, but on the other hand when it comes right down to it how many of you really care, especially when you can get a decent looking animal at below market value? What you don't know can't hurt you??