......to express my experienced opinion(and ONLY an opinion, nothing definitive). If your two gilas are indeed 25 years old then I wouldn't even need to see them to feel confident in believing they are WILD CAUGHT as well. Though a very few people were having some success back in the '80's it wasn't until the early '90's that the "art" of producing gilas really began to take off. Massive numbers of wild gilas were "laundered" into the mix beginning in about the late 80's and still continues to this day(though not appearantly as much for adult animals anymore). It really isn't all that difficult to pick some of them out as they are moved about, NEVER becoming the captive producers that had been hoped for. I'm sorry to be the bearer of what may be disturbing news to you(and a great many others for that matter), but this unfortunatly has been more the reality of the matter as oppossed to what others would have you believe... Buyer beware!