Re: anyone wanna help?

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Posted by Kevin Earley on February 24, 2002 at 21:48:02:

In Reply to: anyone wanna help? posted by Monitor keepeR on February 24, 2002 at 20:51:21:

I would imagine it all boils down to what state you live in on wether it is "legal" or not. In my state Florida you have to have 2 different state permits (not including any local municipality ordinaces). One is for the possession of venomous reptiles the other is for the sale or exhibit of exotic animals.

I think in addition the question should be added "Is it ethical or right to do it?"

During a routine inspection of a facility and their paperwork, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservasion Commission will verify where the animal originated from prior to the purchase as well as if the current owner has the legal right to possess it. If the individual that sold you the animal does not have the proper permits to do so they can be(and usually are) fined. Since it is also an animal that is protected to some extent throughout its range and is "high profile" when it comes to poaching as well they will verify legal origin as well. Anything that doesn't meet their criteria can be confiscated and the individual can be charged depending on the severity of the violation. Florida, to my understanding, is more strict than some states in the issuance of some permits.

In my opinion it is NOT worth the loss of my collection to risk the inability to verify legal origin. And this is just in the State of Florida where they are not indigenous to. I can only imagine that it would be alot worse in the states within their range(California, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico).

Some states don't even allow the possession of venomous reptiles, regardless of the species, in the "private sector".

I would imagine people like Dr. Seward, Robert Applegate, Don Hamper, Steve Osbourne, and the multitude of other individuals that regularly captive breed these would be better at answering this question for you. I have never sold a gila but I do know what I want when it comes to paperwork when purchasing one.

You will find, as a discussion previously revealed, that an individuals opinion of "legal paperwork" differ from person to person.

I don't know if this helps you or not but it might open the door for more experienced people to comment as well.

Kevin

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: I would imagine it all boils down to what state you live in on wether it is "legal" or not. In my state Florida you have to have 2 different state permits (not including any local municipality ordinaces). One is for the possession of venomous reptiles the other is for the sale or exhibit of exotic animals. : I think in addition the question should be added "Is it ethical or right to do it?" : During a routine inspection of a facility and their paperwork, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservasion Commission will verify where the animal originated from prior to the purchase as well as if the current owner has the legal right to possess it. If the individual that sold you the animal does not have the proper permits to do so they can be(and usually are) fined. Since it is also an animal that is protected to some extent throughout its range and is "high profile" when it comes to poaching as well they will verify legal origin as well. Anything that doesn't meet their criteria can be confiscated and the individual can be charged depending on the severity of the violation. Florida, to my understanding, is more strict than some states in the issuance of some permits. : In my opinion it is NOT worth the loss of my collection to risk the inability to verify legal origin. And this is just in the State of Florida where they are not indigenous to. I can only imagine that it would be alot worse in the states within their range(California, Utah, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico). : Some states don't even allow the possession of venomous reptiles, regardless of the species, in the "private sector". : I would imagine people like Dr. Seward, Robert Applegate, Don Hamper, Steve Osbourne, and the multitude of other individuals that regularly captive breed these would be better at answering this question for you. I have never sold a gila but I do know what I want when it comes to paperwork when purchasing one. : You will find, as a discussion previously revealed, that an individuals opinion of "legal paperwork" differ from person to person. : I don't know if this helps you or not but it might open the door for more experienced people to comment as well. : Kevin

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