Hi Kerry

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Posted by Mark Seward on December 22, 2001 at 17:39:48:

In Reply to: Neat little guy... Question: ...... posted by kerry on December 22, 2001 at 17:07:25:

I don't have enough data to know if there is genetic explanation or if there are non-genetic developmental influences at work. I have an adult female cinctum with such a staggered pattern and she produces the most outstanding "normal" patterned babies. However, she has produced babies with 3 body bands on one side and 4 on the other. For example, in �97 she produced 6 babies, two of which had 3 bands on one side and 4 on the other. One of the normal �97 babies produced 5 babies this last season�3 were normal, one had 3 and 4 body bands and the other just 3 bands (it was the very animal I posted).

I produce several �Y� patterned cinctum each year.

Mark

: ......If you don't mind sir, how often does this reduction occur in your group of cinctum? I have rarely seen this clean three banded morph in the wild with three bands on one side of the body, four on the other to create a "Y" or "zig-zag" affect to be much more common, often leading to an incorrect identification as suspectum. I have however I have seen the "Y" pattern you are referring to several times in the cinctum I produce--it seems to be fairly common. Also, there are times when there are the same number of bands bi-laterally, but they are offset on one side so the pattern looks staggered or zigzagged.

seen the reduction many times in lizards from the suspectum part of the range.

: Thanks in advance.

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: I don't have enough data to know if there is genetic explanation or if there are non-genetic developmental influences at work. I have an adult female cinctum with such a staggered pattern and she produces the most outstanding "normal" patterned babies. However, she has produced babies with 3 body bands on one side and 4 on the other. For example, in �97 she produced 6 babies, two of which had 3 bands on one side and 4 on the other. One of the normal �97 babies produced 5 babies this last season�3 were normal, one had 3 and 4 body bands and the other just 3 bands (it was the very animal I posted). : I produce several �Y� patterned cinctum each year. : Mark : : : ......If you don't mind sir, how often does this reduction occur in your group of cinctum? I have rarely seen this clean three banded morph in the wild with three bands on one side of the body, four on the other to create a "Y" or "zig-zag" affect to be much more common, often leading to an incorrect identification as suspectum. I have however I have seen the "Y" pattern you are referring to several times in the cinctum I produce--it seems to be fairly common. Also, there are times when there are the same number of bands bi-laterally, but they are offset on one side so the pattern looks staggered or zigzagged. : seen the reduction many times in lizards from the suspectum part of the range. : : Thanks in advance.

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