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both look like vagrans- location?


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Posted by DrZot on February 02, 2003 at 10:14:10:

In Reply to: variations in western terrestrials...ID & opinions please.. posted by cka on February 02, 2003 at 03:00:05:

both look to me like T. e. vagrans; you can certainly have a lot of variation in belly markings and head "details". What's the locality data?


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