Thanks for your comments!. The Sacramento show last year in September (After 9/11) was about twice the size of the IRBA Show in San Mateo. I thought it was small. There were more, smaller breeders in Sacto. We have our share of Petcos up here along with some really crappy reptile and Pet shops. My buddies and I are going to make the trip to San Diego in the Fall I think if not in July.