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Posted by conservationist on March 08, 2003 at 17:48:40:
In Reply to: Re: Naja nigricollis crawshayi posted by Jeremy G on February 10, 2003 at 20:17:50:
I agree.. It sounds like they are Naja N Nigricollis. I just wanted to point out that if you buy CB babies, they tend to hardly ever spit after a few months and get very calm (atleast mine have been like that). I've been told that wildcaught juveniles/adults tend to be a handful, spitting at anything and everything....
I like to call these "boas" of the elapid world. They not only get huge, but they can eat stuff (very large prey) that you wouldn't believe.
:It sounds to me just to be plain ol Naja nigricollis nigricollis. I have seen some adults which were very shiny blk dorsaly but most tend to be much more faded then what their belly and head keeps.
:BTW, I am still not sure whether there are other ssp which look similar to the nominate yet have differnces that require ssp specification but I would be wary if someone is trying to push this snake off for more then it is. What would be the price he/she is asking, if im not prying too deep? If its over $150.00(for an adult! Babies are going much cheaper)then I personaly wouldnt pay it unless he/she can proove its origins are other then the common nominate ssp.
:In any case, they are very interesting snakes but do require alot of respect! Some are very spitty, others tend to act alomost like a mamba with their sketchy demeanor and their damn near as fast too! These guys are definately more of a handfull then most if not all of the Asian stuff so be extreamly carefull when handleing them(duh! :-)
:Good luck on your Naja search and hopefully the person does have something unique though I am lead to belive its just the plain ol blk neck.
:::I belive that ssp is no longer valid or as you mentioned, was never fully excepted. Though I cant think of any of the currently regonised ssp at the moment, I know that name isnt one of them. What did the person you are reciveing them from say they looked like? A pyhsical discription or common name will help in us giveing you info.
:::The one thing I do know is Naja nigricollis nigricollis obtains the largest size and is the biggest spitter there is. The others tend to be much smaller. There is a brown phase which may be a seperate ssp and it obtains upwards of 7ft in length but I belive this is just a form of N.n.nigricollis.
:::Try to get us a discription for better info.
:::All the best,
::::I am getting some black neck spitters that are supposed to be of the crawshayi subspecies. I cannot find much info on these animals other than it is not widely accepted as a subspecies.Does anyone have any knowledge of them ie. range,size,do they change color as they get older? Thanks
:::Thanks for your response. I was told that they are mat black dorsally,shiny black ventrals, shiny black head, and a bright red band around the throat. Thanks for any more help.