I was just ask to speak at the August meeting for your Society. Hope to see a lot of new and old faces there. I will be bringing slides of some of the pituophis ( bulls, pines and gophers ) we are working with and a few live animals also for introduction purposes in the first half of the talk. In the second half I will be trying to give some insight into the controversy that is again raging over the captive born and imported issue. Thanks for asking me DFW and I hope to keep it from being too boring or long winded.